Thread: geeeezzzz what next alcohol free Aust!!!!!

Originally Posted by Ralph1Malph

So what if you look obviously old like some of us , must they still ask for ID?
Push the point, after they have rung it up on the till, don't hand over any cash until they ask you for age verification! Then threaten to report them to the liquor licensing mob!

Ralph

Hey Ralp1Malf
you have met me are you saying I look under 18

you are realy I nice person if so

Mrs ho har

I went into an independent grocers/bottlo the other week and there were two young girls serving. I walked up and they said they couldn't put the beers through the register as they were too young, one went out the back and got an older bloke(dad maybe).
He picked up the two long necks ran them through the bar code scanner and walked back out to the store room. The girl took my money and gave me my change...fooking stupid.

Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm

Then why would you bother going back there? I would be writing to the owners, probably Colesworths these days, and telling them that you and your extended family will never spend one cent in their establishment again, and you will be telling all your friends, acquaintances, colleagues, club members, lodge brothers, co-religionists etc. how you have been treated and asking them not to go there either.

I have asked if they serve anyone with children in company and if so have been refused service. I've been told not probably so I have said this is Anti Discrimmisson and I will act on that.

Mrs ho har

Originally Posted by WOLLAPIT85

I went into an independent grocers/bottlo the other week and there were two young girls serving. I walked up and they said they couldn't put the beers through the register as they were too young, one went out the back and got an older bloke(dad maybe).
He picked up the two long necks ran them through the bar code scanner and walked back out to the store room. The girl took my money and gave me my change...fooking stupid.

Guess who broke the law.....

The young girls were too young to sell the grog and too young to have a RSA ticket. The old man is at fault for allowing the girls to complete the transaction.

If he had of scanned the goods and taken the money to complete the sale then the girls could of put the long necks in a bag for you.

Yeah....it was the little joint in Murrumbeena..silly allround.

Originally Posted by WOLLAPIT85

Yeah....it was the little joint in Murrumbeena..silly allround.

The IGA by the station or up M'beena Rd near North Rd by the park..?
Both are dumb as each other

Amazing what we learnt whilst doing the RSA course...

I mrs Ho Har case the sale shouold have been ok but from a strictly legal point yes they should ask and require ID.

I spent years working a bottle shop in a rough area. A parent can buy alcahol so judgement on age should have been made. Sounds like they didn't this time.
In trouble areas you have to be harsher as word spreads quick if you are a push over.
It is not easy working these places when you get the dregs of society comming in repeatedly trying to steal while extreemly drunk. I used to often see a group talking then 2 would peel of and come in while the others tried to hide.
My response would be the same each week. Have you 4 mates out there behind that bush come in and show me some ID and I will serve you.
Oldest person I ever asked or ID turned out to be 29! She loved it but I felt quite stupid.
Nicest youngster I ever had was a girl who had just turned 18. She came in asked about what she wanted for her 18 birthday party and then had her dad pick it up the next day even so that there would be no problems with 17 year olds at the party.

Coming from the other side of the counter, and keeping in mind that I wasn't there but have seen this happen firsthand hundreds of times.

I ran a Bottleshop for 2 years. I still work for the same shop as a second job to my apprenticeship ($20 a hour! ) I have refused TONS of people and I consider myself very good at it, telling people they cant have something is not easy. I have heard every excuse and seen every situation. Parents get so angry when the 17yo daughter walks down and picks some raspberry vodka cruisers out of the fridge while they are looking at the reds. They then both wander up to the counter and don't understand when I tell them I'm refusing them service. It was obviously the 35yo dads drinks he was just to lazy to get them

The person who served you did nothing wrong but maybe should have explained themselves better. As far as I'm concerned there is no grey area, If I have ANY suspicion AT ALL that alcohol is being provided to a minor I will refuse service. It is simply not worth the risk to sell it as there are very large fines for you / me / my boss. Around $3000, $6000 and $18000 respectively. These fines do get given out as well, they are not just a threat. There is no common reason a person over 18 shouldn't have ID on them, if your in a shop you have your wallet... and thats where you would keep your license or 18+ card. Complaining will also get you nowhere unless the person was actually rude to you. Thier employer should back them up 100%.

Also these rules are nothing new.... they have been in place for years. If people have gotten away with things like this before it was only the shop assistants incompetence towards RSA that allowed it.