Graffiti the graffiti?

**DiscoStew** · 18th July 2008, 12:05 PM

If graffiti becomes heritage listed then perhaps we should go and paint over it and see if the graffiti artists can take a bit of their own medicine. They could hardly complain.

National Trust considers heritage listing for graffiti - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

**Landy110** · 18th July 2008, 12:20 PM

That can of worms is HUGE!!!!!!!

**Slunnie** · 18th July 2008, 12:24 PM

I agree, A big fat paint roller to paint straight over the top of it is about the only thing it is worthy of. There is never a reason to protect vandalism. Protecting it is a great way of condoning it.

**Xavie** · 18th July 2008, 12:30 PM

That Scott Hilditch is a bit of a loser. I don't think it venerates graffiti on a whole by giving a very very small proportion some historical significance.

I think as the spokesperson for the national trust says it marks a particular occasion be it government, religous or what. And frankly... it doesn't look bad and ads to the feel.

Xav

**moose** · 18th July 2008, 03:19 PM

Not sure it needs to be heritage listed just yet, but I agree that some graffiti is quite good artwork, wish I had a portion of the talent of some of those guys. tagging however is just rubbish.

**dobbo** · 18th July 2008, 03:44 PM

Talented, yes some of them are. Until they get electrocuted, fall from heights, crushed or dismembered whilst using there talents. Then if the do survive they sue because a duty of care was not in place to protect them and prevent them from using their talents.

Talented at costing people money, thats all.

Obviously you guys have not had the task of scrubbing walls with citric acid until the paint comes off.

**Lucus** · 18th July 2008, 04:06 PM

At the risk of opening a sizeable can of worms, if we are going spend money to protect an artform i would rather i was grafitti (or urban art call it what you will) than photographs of naked children.......

**Xavie** · 18th July 2008, 04:12 PM

Dobbo- I have had to scrub graffiti off many times when I lived in Sydney and your right, it ain't fun.

But that's not the point.

Upon reading some other news stories some of this work was done as a demonstration against government. Probably because if they tried to protest any where else they would of been gaoled or harmed for no good reason.
I don't know about heritage listing but sometimes the trees need to be seen through the forest.

**p38arover** · 18th July 2008, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by Xavie

Dobbo- I have had to scrub graffiti off many times when I lived in Sydney and your right, it ain't fun.

But that's not the point.

Upon reading some other news stories some of this work was done as a demonstration against government. Probably because if they tried to protest any where else they would of been gaoled or harmed for no good reason.
I don't know about heritage listing but sometimes the trees need to be seen through the forest.

If it was my wall, I wouldn't care less about heritage listing, I'd paint over it.

**Landy110** · 19th July 2008, 02:00 PM

Now that the afore mentioned can of worms is open, consider this.
There is graffiti carved into a rock on Goat Island in Syd 'arb. It was done by convicts and is protected.
There are various places around the world where sailors have carved there names into coastal rocks over the centuries and we admire this.
There are names and dates going back to the 18 hundreds at Borenore Caves near Orange and the nicest I have seen is the names of the outlawed "Ribbon Gang" written on a stalagmite in Abbercrombie cave some of which were written in beautiful "copperplate" form, all are now glazed over by by the ongoing process of dripping calcite. These are beautiful and admired by all but will be lost for ever in the fullness of time.
That said, I don't like the stuff we see today but who am I to say??
Steve.

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