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  1. 29th July 2008, 12:53 PM #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    Not quite...

    because of the age of the vehicle providing I am only going from OEM hardware to OEM hardware availalbe for the vehicle then Im ok....

    Im going from 2.25 petrol to 2.25 diesel thats ok... both engines were available at the time of manufacture
    Ive gone to the LWB brakes again Ok as i didnt have to modify anything to make them fit and IVe increased the braking ability of the vehicle using OEM parts designed to fit original components
    The gear box swap was a suffix change so again no problem.
    swapping to the sals might have been a problem But since I havent touched the chassis sides of the mounts just the axle side and its all bolted under compression and I have no lift from it thats cool as well..

    so sayeth the RTA and a local vehicle inspection place....
    No such thing as the RTA in QLD

    Changing from one OEM option to another can be done without a mod plate on any vehicle (in QLD), it has nothing to do with the age of the vehicle.

    e.g. you can fit a mitsubishi cordia turbo engine into an na cordia if you upgrade the brakes and suspension to the same spec as the turbo model.

    So for any SIIA, you don't need a mod plate to fit any optional engine, but you would need a mod plate to fit an engine that wasn't originally fitted to a SIIA.
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  2. 29th July 2008, 02:13 PM #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by isuzurover View Post
    The 200tdi shares the same bolt pattern as the 2.25P/D, (apart from 1 stud apparently), so YES.

    You may need to move the engine mounts (some say no, some say it is better to move them), and you need to relocate the battery or lift it 4" or so.

    EDIT - however there is a big difference between the disco and defender 200tdi. To fit a disco 200, you either need to fit a defender manifold/turbo, or make a VERY compact dump pipe to clear the footwell.
    to clarify the Series3 had a rover 6, and now a holden 6, so would a 200 still fit in ok and drive away with teh same box etc?

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  3. 29th July 2008, 04:27 PM #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by isuzurover View Post
    No such thing as the RTA in QLD

    Changing from one OEM option to another can be done without a mod plate on any vehicle (in QLD), it has nothing to do with the age of the vehicle.

    e.g. you can fit a mitsubishi cordia turbo engine into an na cordia if you upgrade the brakes and suspension to the same spec as the turbo model.

    So for any SIIA, you don't need a mod plate to fit any optional engine, but you would need a mod plate to fit an engine that wasn't originally fitted to a SIIA.
    I might be wrong, or it may have changed but when I was researching the mods I was originally planning to kermit (I was going for a kubota 3 pot air cooled diesel) the ruling was so long as I didnt weld the chassis and kept it within the power limits of the OEM engine then it was all good.... but that was 9-10 years ago now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy View Post
    to clarify the Series3 had a rover 6, and now a holden 6, so would a 200 still fit in ok and drive away with teh same box etc?

    Jim
    in short, no not easily.... IF you have a rover 6 then the bell houseing stud pattern will be wrong for a TDI.. but if you were to drop in an original 4pot gearbox then mod the mounts and the radiator setup youd get it in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    I might be wrong, or it may have changed but when I was researching the mods I was originally planning to kermit (I was going for a kubota 3 pot air cooled diesel) the ruling was so long as I didnt weld the chassis and kept it within the power limits of the OEM engine then it was all good.... but that was 9-10 years ago now.



    in short, no not easily.... IF you have a rover 6 then the bell houseing stud pattern will be wrong for a TDI.. but if you were to drop in an original 4pot gearbox then mod the mounts and the radiator setup youd get it in.
    read p3 of this Dave: http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/reso..._vehicles2.pdf Any mod not listed in the minor mods section requires a mod plate - see p23.

    I am not sure when these rules came in... but they were in place when I converted my IIA to a diesel around 2000.


    Although this is intended to mean only bolt-in options, many people get away with 6cyl-v8 conversions in holdens under this rule.
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  5. 29th July 2008, 07:12 PM #25
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    Of course there is the consideration that it is very unlikely that the authorities will have any idea either what options were available on a particular model Landrover and even more what was fitted to a specific vehicle, especially if we are talking about one that predates ADRs, so any Rover engine for example, is probably OK.

    What is not clear from the booklet is the status of vehicles that may have been modified long before the legislation (I assume that problems would arise if it was presented for registration, but how about if it has been continuously registered?)

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