Thread: Victorians caught speeding <10k/m over limit

and my absoloute aussie favourite, driving whilst drinking alcohol....

Speeding is a crime and thats why you get fined

Road safety is not justification for speed cameras, radar traps cause they would re-educate the offenders about road safety requirements and need to comply rather than fine or remove license rather than fine.

Government commitment to road safety can be seen by measures like compulsory seat belts, that is vehicle design and manufacturing standards, quality of road surfaces, removal of potential hazards from side of roads like trees or telegraph poles situated too close to roadside, regular vehicle safety checks.

Originally Posted by cartm58

Speeding is a crime and thats why you get fined

Is it a crime? I always though a traffic infringement is not a criminal offence.

You get fined for lots of things in life these days

Originally Posted by mns488

Is it a crime? I always though a traffic infringement is not a criminal offence.

You get fined for lots of things in life these days

We are getting semantic aren't we?

They are all crimes, in general practice misdemenors are not considered indictable offences which equate to a felony in the US. Therefore misdemenors are not considered criminal offences, however failure to pay a fine for a misdemenor is an indictable offence and even not turning up for a court appearence is an indictable offence, even where the original charge that sent you to court gets dismissed. So you may be inocent of the original crime but become a convicted criminal because of the process.

Or that's my read of it.

If you waht to know officially what a crime is look in your state's legal database. In NSW it's the Crimes Act 1900

Diana

In europe the speedo can be up to 10% over, but is never allowed to be under. In all cars I have ever driven with the speedo dead on 100, the tomtom usually says about 90-95. As much as I hate these revenue generators there is no excuse for getting caught. SO to be going over 100, your speedo will be reading 105-110. I guess the rules are similar here?

Most cameras in the UK are bright yellow. If you didnt see one then you were either going far too fast anyway or are far too blind to be driving.

The north bound entrance to the lane cove tunnel is rediculous drops to 70km/h for no apparent reason - I got done here for ignoring the rather large 70 signs on my first trip through there. But I was an idiot for not being more aware and paid the fine.

Originally Posted by mark2

So you've never travelled over the speed limit, involuntarily or not

OK let me clarify this...

I'm definitely no saint....

In my driving career I've had a compulsory 3 month walk for losing too many points.. I've donated in excess of $15000.00 (yes that IS correct) to the SA revenue and been defected for driving a 'track only' vehicle on a public road

I think I also hold the SA record with 12 speed camera and 1 radar infringement in a single day

I have since become wiser and happy to say since 1998 have not had a single infringement notice.

Nowadays, yes, I do occasionally drift over the limit - mostly during overtaking on the highway (I consider slightly elevated speeds safer as they reduce time in the oncoming lane)...

I understand that this is breaking the laws...

I also accept that if I do (either deliberately or not) exceed the limits imposed for the area, that I am solely responsible for my choice / inattentiveness, and therefore liable to punishment under the current laws.

Should I blame the government? The Cop? The legislature?

No.... I can only blame the idiot at the controls......

ME!

my one infringement for speeding was 85 in a 60 zone.

I knew the road and they had changed the speed limit and put signage up appropriately.

I got away with a lesser fine and when apprehended I made mention of the urmm no its a 90 zone same as the rest of the highway... the cop took me back to where the signs were and when we got back there was a road train pulled over infront of the sign so only one was visable.

he let me off with only 11K over the limit.

Originally Posted by Rosscoe68

i'm sorry, this not directed at you gary or anyone in particular, i just get annoyed at ppl that complain when they get booked for breaking the law. If you are on the road and you can't tell that your vehicle is doing 106 when all the rest of the traffic is doing 100 then really are your observation skills sufficient for you to be doing 100 anyhow ?

Originally Posted by mark2

What annoys me, is comments like this......

Originally Posted by Tombie2

Why?

He's correct is he not?

Speeding fines, parking fines etc... are all voluntary taxes...

Maybe he was, like me, annoyed at the second part of the sentence that seems to make an assumption which IMHO is ridiculous. That is, everyone around you is doing the speed limit.

Having said that most of us can tell after a few years of driving the difference between 100 & 106 regardless of what the surrounding traffic is doing and if you can't then consider the fine the cost of being a slow learner.

I agree with Fusion and others that you only have yourself to blame.

But what I find most interesting is this excerpt frrm the document that started this thread "An official warning will not be given for red light, mobile phone, seatbelt or generally any serious road safety offence...."

This seems to imply that speeding less than 10kph over the limit is not considered a serious offence. So much for every K over is a killer.