Thread: Roof spotties

Reckon you're being a bit oversensitive drivesafe. We were asked our opinions and we gave them.

I don't think John was calling you a ****** but saying , in his opinion, they look " (redneck, ******, show-off - pick your word)".

I think having big mud tyres around the city (like most Wranglers you see in Melbourne) is a "****" too - doesn't mean I think the driver is a ****** - I'll reserve that opinion until I meet him.

A good mate of mine has a MQ Patrol, Lifted, Locked, Big Tyres, Plastic Testicles from the tow bar, enormous oversized mudflaps, Bundy stickers - you name it. I think his vehicle shouts "(redneck, ******, show-off - pick your word)" - I've told him so many times - Great bloke though and we are good mates - With different opinions!

It'd be a boring site if we all agreed!



Oh and I drove my wife out of the high country at 2am in 2001, asthma attack. Scary drive, night time river crossings etc. Could have used those roof lights then - could have also used a helicopter! Still made it though.

Originally Posted by clean32

It looks like you haven’t done much driving in Fog or dust.

After living on the south coast for 15 years, doing shift work in Sydney and driving, almost, daily up and down the Illawarra Escarpment, I can assure you I have done my fair share of driving in fog.

While driving with your hazard lights on is illegal, the fog is so bad and happens so frequently that the F4 was the first place in Australia where signs were erected along the F4 instructing drivers to put the Hazard lights on during foggy conditions.

Driving in fog, ALL lights other than low beam need to be turned off, not just the roof lights.

And after spending quite a few years out in the North West of NSW, with it’s black soil roads, I had plenty of dusty night drives and again, only a moron would leave anything other than low beam on in these sorts of conditions.

Originally Posted by drivesafe

After living on the south coast for 15 years, doing shift work in Sydney and driving, almost, daily up and down the Illawarra Escarpment, I can assure you I have done my fair share of driving in fog.

While driving with your hazard lights on is illegal, the fog is so bad and happens so frequently that the F4 was the first place in Australia where signs were erected along the F4 instructing drivers to put the Hazard lights on during foggy conditions.

Driving in fog, ALL lights other than low beam need to be turned off, not just the roof lights.

And after spending quite a few years out in the North West of NSW, with it’s black soil roads, I had plenty of dusty night drives and again, only a moron would leave anything other than low beam on in these sorts of conditions.

??? Then why the hell did you state what you did in your first post ?? Then just to change tack with you expansive experience in your second post??

Seems rather strange to me, but then I guess you were trying to make some sort of point but it’s totally mixed up some where.

I would be concerned with anyone who decided to drive in conditions so bad that you had to turn on your hazard lights, or any party who recommended such an action, it leads me to think that the road should have been closed if visibility was so bad.

Originally Posted by Sleepy

Reckon you're being a bit oversensitive drivesafe. We were asked our opinions and we gave them.

It'd be a boring site if we all agreed!

Hi Sleepy, having an opinion on whether you like something or not is one thing and to brand someone else a REDNECK just because you don’t like them is bad enough but as I have posted, after many, MANY years of use, I find these lights give me increased safety when driving at night but because some small minded individual considers them UNCOOL, I’m a REDNECK because I choose to improve my safety.

It’s anything but being oversensitive.

I’m old enough to remember when radial tyres first came on the market and the way certain individuals, not having a clew about these tyres, branding anyone who fitted them as being idiots and poses.

Try finding an ordinary tyre today and while I don’t think every dog and his mother is going to mount roof lights, that does not give those who do not intend to use them the right to brand others as rednecks or what ever.

Fair enough. If you want them use them.

As I said in my first post - "Each to his own"

I think if John said they look like an a pretentious, contemptible uneducated white farm laborers pickup truck it wouldn't have had the same punch.

It wasn't an insult just an observation!

Based on the vote I reckon a few more would agree.

But don't get defensive. As you say, you've used them to great effect and your happy with them!

I was once happy with my Lada Niva - Plenty of people thought I was a ****** but I loved it

Originally Posted by clean32

??? Then why the hell did you state what you did in your first post ?? Then just to change tack with you expansive experience in your second post??

Don’t know what you talking about.

Originally Posted by clean32

I would be concerned with anyone who decided to drive in conditions so bad that you had to turn on your hazard lights, or any party who recommended such an action, it leads me to think that the road should have been closed if visibility was so bad.

Mate, I’ve never heard of a road being closed because of fog and until you have driven in these condition and seen why the signs were erected.

If you are driving along a road at 110 KHP, the legal speed and you come around a corner and into a wall of fog, you really don’t have many choices.

You could go for the brakes but that vehicle that was travelling at a legal distance behind you before you entered the fog, is now in the fog to.

Has he gone for his brakes?

Or you could pull off to the side of the road, but again, the fog is that thick, you can’t see if other vehicles have already pulled up.

Tens of thousands of vehicles use the F4 every day and there are loads of semi and there is rarely an accident, because MOST people use common sense when driving in these conditions and I can testify to very VERY rarely seeing anyone driving with anything but the low beams on, whether they had roof mounted lights or not.

I think they are a poser thing but i have not done any offroad at night so am unsure of their usefulness. I don't really like the look either a bit like the utes with all the aerials and stickers huge mudflaps and truck type bullbar(buy a bloody truck for god sake) as mentioned in an earlier post.

I voted useless and uncool or what ever it was, good headlights and a good set of front mounted driving lights is all that is needed in my opinion.
I prefer night driving and the key is to drive at a speed that is safe for the road and condition at the time.
I have aso done a lot of driving in fog on roads that were often closed until the fog lifted and found the best lighting for the job was low beam and steady slow driving (tried lots of different lighting combo's on recomendations, results were standard low beam th best)
cheers
blaze