Thread: 10 most and least reliable cars survey

Problem with this sort of survey is usually in the definition of reliability. And no two people will agree completely, for example, on how you weigh a large number of minor niggling problems against one show stopper. The reality is, you can't.

And then similarly, how do you weight things like time off road to fix, cost to fix etc.

John

You took the word right out of my mouth John.

Also, they appear to only deal with vehicle in their first year or so of life.

I wonder how my 31 year old series 3 would stack up against a similar age Holden, Ford or Toyota? (if you could find one!)

Originally Posted by JDNSW

Problem with this sort of survey is usually in the definition of reliability. And no two people will agree completely, for example, on how you weigh a large number of minor niggling problems against one show stopper. The reality is, you can't.

And then similarly, how do you weight things like time off road to fix, cost to fix etc.
John

Time off the road and cost to fix? My bet is that Land Rover would lose on all counts, just ask Dullbird and muddymech about the trials of their puma engined Defender.

Or CapeLandy with the missing seals in his one and any number of other owners.

Originally Posted by Sleepy

...Also, they appear to only deal with vehicle in their first year or so of life.

That would be the parameters of the survey, they are studying the customer satisfaction of original owners over the first year of the vehicles life.

Originally Posted by Sleepy

I wonder how my 31 year old series 3 would stack up against a similar age Holden, Ford or Toyota? (if you could find one!)

Possibly quite well, that is because most other cars have fallen apart, however by the time the current flock of Land Rovers are 31 years old, if they still exist, they will be held together with parts cannibalised of other dead Land Rovers and retrofitted with after-market electronics to replace the long dead and unobtainable OEM items.

Originally Posted by JDNSW

Problem with this sort of survey is usually in the definition of reliability. And no two people will agree completely, for example, on how you weigh a large number of minor niggling problems against one show stopper. The reality is, you can't.

And then similarly, how do you weight things like time off road to fix, cost to fix etc.

John

Good points, presumably though cost to fix is zip as they are new and under warranty ?

Worst car I ever had was a Reliant Robin(plastic pig) best has been a Defender, 2.8i Capri wasn't bad either.

Originally Posted by JDNSW

Problem with this sort of survey is usually in the definition of reliability. And no two people will agree completely, for example, on how you weigh a large number of minor niggling problems against one show stopper. The reality is, you can't.

And then similarly, how do you weight things like time off road to fix, cost to fix etc.

John

I also think we would find that the average owner of a new Jag, Audi or LR would scream louder than the owner of an i30 / jazz / civic... I’m not saying that the Jap cars aren’t reliable but have a look at the top list – something in common about the price?

I’m yet to meet a Toyota owner that has ever had a problem – my brother in-law is currently fitting his 3rd engine to his 2.8d Hilux and still tells me how good Toyota are – they never give trouble – that tow truck was just a precaution (and he’s serious)... Least I admit (or complain) that my LR has given more than it’s far share of problems....

[QUOTE=Grockle;1043460]Worst car I ever had was a Reliant Robin(plastic pig)

Good old Reliant Robins - of Dell boy fame no less. Haven't heard of them for years.

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

Time off the road and cost to fix? My bet is that Land Rover would lose on all counts, just ask Dullbird and muddymech about the trials of their puma engined Defender.
CapeLandy with the missing seals in his one and any number of other owners.

Won't try an defend the Puma - although plenty of happy owners here too. However the old man bought his 3 yo Disco 3 (Tdv6) last year and is very very happy with it. [And that's coming from a career Toyota owner!!!!] I haven't heard of a Disco 3 owner with other than niggly problems.

Pity they didn't put the tdv6 (and the new 3litre) in the Defender