Thread: Global warming hits Perth

Originally Posted by LandyAndy

Just wait till we start exporting our URANIUM,we have LOTS of it
Andrew

Ahh....there goes the grenade!!

Originally Posted by willem

Did O'Connor's plan bankrupt the state? Where would WA be without the Kalgoorlie pipeline? Has the gold output alone from Kal paid back the cost of the pipeline so many times over ...?? Never mind the establishment and benefits of the city of Kalgoorlie-Boulder. And of the towns around. And ... The pipeline was a brilliant investment that keeps on paying dividends!

Willem

Yes we need the visionaries. Whatever the cost now, even if it seems unaffordable, in 10 years it will be 50 times that. Again the politics seems to interfere with the science.

We are willing to build desalination plants that cost millions in this state, and degrade the local environment they operate in, pumping concentrated salt back into a coastal zone.

...but we have no collection network to harness the rainwater spilling off domestic housing, and eventually washing back into the ocean. New housing estates are no better in this regard than 50 years ago

Then we watch as billions of litres of fresh water washes out to sea in the north west every year during the 'wet ' season. Ironic don't you think. We are willing to add to the the salt content of the ocean, but not collect the fresh water given to us free..... aah, but it offsets the extra salt...

Seige mentality. Visit the northwest and talk about harnessing the water resources. You will be lucky to get out of town without being lynched. A minority interest group holding the rest of the state and Australia to ransom. " you city folk keep your grubby hands off our water "

Originally Posted by LandyAndy

Just wait till we start exporting our URANIUM,we have LOTS of it
Andrew

So has Queensland,South Australia and the Northern Territory.Plus the number of capped gas and oil finds are very many indeed in Queensland.
John

Originally Posted by Disco44

So has Queensland,South Australia and the Northern Territory.Plus the number of capped gas and oil finds are very many indeed in Queensland.
John

Having been involved in oil and gas exploration over the last fifty years in Queensland, before you start worrying about "capped oil and gas finds" I suggest you do a few calculations matching probable reserves, costs of development, cost of capital, and risked discounted cash flow.

The simple fact is that given Australia's traditional high interest rate economy, distances, and lack of infrastructure, it is hardly surprising that there are a few "capped oil and gas finds" - without even taking into account the fact that a significant number of them are only "finds" in the loosest sense. A good example is RBO#4 that discovered oil in the late thirties - it was re-entered in about 1940 to try and assist the wartime oil shortage. Despite the best efforts of all involved, it produced a total of (from memory) 70 gallons of oil over about six months. A similar story at Rough Range in the fifties. All this information, at least up to the Whitlam era, is publicly available on open file, and from a bit later quite detailed technical reports were filed with the ASX whenever a public company was involved - which is almost every well.

It should be pointed out for those looking at a sudden lack of oil, that some of these discoveries are likely to become economic as shortage drives the price of oil up, thus reducing the shortage.

John

Originally Posted by JDNSW

Having been involved in oil and gas exploration over the last fifty years in Queensland, before you start worrying about "capped oil and gas finds" I suggest you do a few calculations matching probable reserves, costs of development, cost of capital, and risked discounted cash flow.

The simple fact is that given Australia's traditional high interest rate economy, distances, and lack of infrastructure, it is hardly surprising that there are a few "capped oil and gas finds" - without even taking into account the fact that a significant number of them are only "finds" in the loosest sense. A good example is RBO#4 that discovered oil in the late thirties - it was re-entered in about 1940 to try and assist the wartime oil shortage. Despite the best efforts of all involved, it produced a total of (from memory) 70 gallons of oil over about six months. A similar story at Rough Range in the fifties. All this information, at least up to the Whitlam era, is publicly available on open file, and from a bit later quite detailed technical reports were filed with the ASX whenever a public company was involved - which is almost every well.

It should be pointed out for those looking at a sudden lack of oil, that some of these discoveries are likely to become economic as shortage drives the price of oil up, thus reducing the shortage.

John

So what you are implying is that over the many years of exploration and test drilling that nothing viable was really discovered.if so could one then deduct that the efforts on a whole was money down the drain and the people used on those projects could have been more gainfully employed elsewhere.I distinctly remember running into many camps ,some quite sizable with a heap of yanks in tow,in Central Western Queensland in the early sixties.
John

Originally Posted by LandyAndy

Just wait till we start exporting our URANIUM,we have LOTS of it
Andrew

We should not sell uranium ... we should build a plant to turn it into nuclear fuel and sell that. Its called value adding and Australia does far too little of it. We tend to sell the raw materials for tuppence ... !!!

And don't get me started on setting up a plant to reprocess 'spent' nuclear fuel, instead of dumping it. Australia could be a world leader in this stuff but instead we are beholden to people who have a fear of another Hiroshima or Chernobyl, instead of learning from both and moving on to make the best of the developing technology.

Willem