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  1. 4th August 2014, 05:45 PM #1
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    Holden experts needed

    Hi all


    I've picked up a Holden powered 86" from Tumut and I am trying to find out what red engine is in it.


    Even after plenty of time with the Karcher I could not even find the cast in numbers which normally ID these engines. The grease, rust and gunk from I reckon 30 plus years would not give in to any great degree. Plus from what I remember it's right behind the alternator and that seems to work so I was reluctant to saturate it.
    I could read the engine number and that is Y15330 and a 9 I think. Does anybody know what engine this is? It has the road draft engine ventilation and is the different red to the later engines.
    After changing the distributer the thing actually runs not too bad. I've given it an oil change and new filter but still have to fix the engine pipe to exhaust manifold leak and the clutch adjustment which is not releasing properly.
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    The cast iron inlet manifold and the breather indicate an EH motor, either a 149 or a 179. These didn't have the engine size cast into the block, only the letters "HP".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holdenpaedia
    Y EH series, 149 red motor, high comp, 1963-1965,100bhp(75kw)@4400rpm
    FX HR engine prefixes - Holdenpaedia

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    Wow that was quick thank you both.


    I can't believe how great this forum is for information.


    The clutch pedal arm is seriously worn from all the dirt plus someone has lengthened the arm that goes through the chassis similar to the Johnsons conversion info.


    Does anyone have a good method of welding and redrilling or otherwise fixing this issue with the clutch pedal arm?


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    I would change to a Vauxhaul Velox/Ferguson TE20 Borg & Beck clutch pressure plate housing and refit the original clutch linkage. The Holden diaphragm pressure plate clutch never gave a good feel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bundy View Post
    Does anyone have a good method of welding and redrilling or otherwise fixing this issue with the clutch pedal arm?
    To weld up a hole, place a plate or block of brass behind the hole. Direct the welding electrode onto the edge of the steel and slowly weld it up. The weld will not stick to the brass. Grind flat when finished, then centre punch and drill the new hole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron IIA View Post
    To weld up a hole, place a plate or block of brass behind the hole. Direct the welding electrode onto the edge of the steel and slowly weld it up. The weld will not stick to the brass. Grind flat when finished, then centre punch and drill the new hole.
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    Aaron are you talking about the SII/SIIa hydraulic type clutch pedal box or the S1 mechanical linkage with pedals going through the floor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    FX HR engine prefixes - Holdenpaedia
    Wrong. Y = 149 low compression.

    H = 149 high compression.

    I don't care what holdenpaedia says. I am correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    Aaron are you talking about the SII/SIIa hydraulic type clutch pedal box or the S1 mechanical linkage with pedals going through the floor?
    I was giving advice on welding up and re-drilling holes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm View Post
    I don't care what holdenpaedia says. I am correct.
    I'm not disputing you Brian, I only quoted what Holdenpaedia stated (and then gave the link).
    Diana

    Quote Originally Posted by Holdenpaedia
    EK, EJ, EH series engine prefixes
    EK series, 138 grey motor, 1961-1962, 22.5 horsepower, B EJ series, 138 grey motor, 1962-1963, 22.5 horsepower, J EH series, 149 red motor, low comp, 1963-1965, 95bhp(71kw)@4400rpm, Y EH series, 149 red motor, high comp, 1963-1965,100bhp(75kw)@4400rpm, <?> EH series, 179 red motor, 1963-1965, 30.5 horsepower,115bhp(86kw)@4000rpm, M
    Notice it is very reasonable to misread the presentation of the data.
    It would have been better presented as dot points:
    Quote Originally Posted by Holdenpaedia Edited
    EK, EJ, EH series engine prefixes
    • EK series, 138 grey motor, 1961-1962, 22.5 horsepower, B
    • EJ series, 138 grey motor, 1962-1963, 22.5 horsepower, J
    • EH series, 149 red motor, low comp, 1963-1965, 95bhp(71kw)@4400rpm, Y
    • EH series, 149 red motor, high comp, 1963-1965,100bhp(75kw)@4400rpm, <H>
    • EH series, 179 red motor, 1963-1965, 30.5 horsepower,115bhp(86kw)@4000rpm, M
    or even better if they put the prefix at the front.

    BTW: "<red>" inserted by L-A-L

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