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    I think I've solved the fuel problem by fitting an insulating block under the carby

    Now I have a clutch problem the release bearing has jammed in for some reason and the clutch pedal is flopping around not really doing anything.

    IMG_3397.jpg IMG_3399.jpg so tomorrow I'll pull out the gearbox and see what is going on, didn't expect this one but its all learning and maybe this is the reason for my slipping clutch

    Cheers Paul

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    Before pulling the box, check the pins on the sleeve joining the release shaft to the slave cylinder bellcrank!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    Before pulling the box, check the pins on the sleeve joining the release shaft to the slave cylinder bellcrank!
    Looked at this thanks for the heads up John, shaft and crank arm locked solid tried a few well aimed taps and bangs with a hammer to no avail

    Cheers Paul

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    As it turned out I didn't have to remove the gear box

    Maladjustment on my part had the slave cylinder piston pop out and jam the clutch actuator lever

    IMG_5775.jpg the only way to release the pin at the bottom of the pushrod to free things was to unbolt the slave cylinder.

    The problem was easy to see once the dust boot was removed, no damage to the cylinder thankfully and all working as it should at the moment

    Wasn't a bad way to spend a few hours on a sunny winters day

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    Cheers Paul

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    Ok good news is, clutch mechanism from the pedal to the top hat release bearing is working fine and every thing is within tolerance

    Bad news clutch is still slipping, my gut feeling is the pressure plate that came in a blue box is possibly not suitable for the job.

    The pressure plate I removed had badly worn fingers probably from PO riding clutch pedal

    IMG_5780.jpg IMG_5781.jpg IMG_5782.jpg

    I didn't really give it much thought at the time and ordered a 2.25 petrol Land rover pressure plate, this could have been a wrong move as it would seem the springs are not strong enough for the holden motor,
    I'm going to remove the gearbox and see if plate is contaminated first as unfortunately in my ignorance I used some grease on the gearbox shaft, not a lot but who knows.

    I have another pressure plate from a Holden conversion but I was reluctant to use it because someone had welded a bit of flat bar to it, I'm now thinking maybe this was to balance it after a refurb at some stage

    IMG_5787.jpg so maybe I will use it, will know more after the gearbox is out

    Cheers Paul

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    Don't know if it will fit, but a diesel pressure plate should have a higher clamping force than a petrol one. Only guessing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 67hardtop View Post
    Don't know if it will fit, but a diesel pressure plate should have a higher clamping force than a petrol one. Only guessing.
    Correct, I believe.

    Just make sure it is not slipping because of pressure from the release bearing or the pressure plate loose.
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    Got the gearbox separated from the fly wheel using the through the door technique more working room than I expected.

    Part of my problem IMG_5788.jpg fingers touching the housing

    Gap on spare engine IMG_5787.jpg

    I'm going to buy a new clutch plate bolt up both pressure plates and check clearances to LR manual specs

    It seems both of the old pressure plates have had the fingers adjusted at some time looking at the butchered lock screws

    IMG_5797.jpg IMG_5798.jpg my prestine new one IMG_5801.jpg

    Maybe my new one needs adjusting, will phone around monday to see if I can get a clutch plate locally, may as well do it now and get everything right from word go.

    Sharp learning curve here

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    Cheers Paul

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    Did you fit a new flexible line in the hydraulic system of the clutch?
    A similar issue that happens to series brakes sometimes can happen to the clutch, a bit of crap in the line due to hose deterioration can act like a one way valve and restrict fluid return, resulting in the thrust bearing not completely returning and the clutch not being completely released.
    If its a purpose built flywheel for the conversion it might be thicker than a standard Holden flywheel in order to achieve more weight.
    Make sure when you put it all together that the thrust bearing is clear of the fingers when the clutch is released.
    I have edited this message as the thrust bearing carrier length issue i mentioned is relevant to the series 3 type clutch, not the 2A.
    I will PM you my phone number if you want to call me.


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    Conversion Kit Archeology

    After a discussion with Mick88 last night he suggested I take a few pictures of what I have, rather than send them PM I'll post them here, as others may be interested
    Any comments welcome

    Red 202 flywheel IMG_3408.jpg has original holes and has been redrilled and tapped for mystery pressure plate IMG_3445.jpg

    3.3 flywheel IMG_3409.jpg holes drilled for either 9" or 9 1/2" Rover pressure plate either will bolt up IMG_3450.jpgIMG_3453.jpg diaphragm wont work with 2a release bearing obviously but same stud pattern

    Red 202 flywheel hole centres IMG_3431.jpg IMG_3436.jpgIMG_3437.jpg 10 5/8" possibly

    3.3 flywheel hole centres (Rover compatible)IMG_3432.jpg IMG_3434.jpg IMG_3438.jpg 10 3/8" possibly

    Red 202 pressure plate fixings IMG_3441.jpg

    3.3 pressure plate fixings IMG_3444.jpg

    Red 202 spigot bearing IMG_3414.jpg

    3.3 spigot bearing appears to be Rover spec IMG_3410.jpg

    Don't know if its relevant or not but both motors have Holden starter motors

    Flywheels might be different thicknesses but that was a bit problematic to measure them so I measured from face of the adapter plate back to the flywheel using a steel rule as a straight edge IMG_3428.jpg

    Red 202 IMG_3425.jpg

    3.3 IMG_3424.jpg

    both seem to be the same relative to the gearbox

    The 3.3 is the motor I'm using and it would seem everything Rover marries up happily but I'm curious about which clutch pressure plate the 202 is using

    202 Pressure plate 9" IMG_3445.jpg IMG_3463.jpg IMG_3467.jpg won't bolt to anything Rover but clutch plate fits

    I can't understand why the 202 flywheel wasn't drilled to accept a Rover clutch it would have pulled the holes in away from the ring gear and edge of the flywheel



    When my new clutch plate arrives I can move onto something more productive

    Cheers Paul

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