Reply With QuoteI too would prefer the stick (with the paddles) - but as Mike says I'm not going to let that put me off the rest of the vehicle.
Meanwhile I guess I'll just have to enjoy driving it down to the cafe.
Cheers,
Jon
You are a shocker...Originally Posted by sniegy
Hey Sweetheart,
I normally dont disagree with you, but today i do
The pic doesnt really do it justice. so here is my opinion....
I think the layout looks rather smart
The TR "switch" is easy to use, its just a switch to tab left or right (if i can do it anyone can)
Flappy paddles OffRoad i agree, but are fun to play with on the road downshifting.
And yes a "Latte" cup fits perfectly on the rotary dial, a holder it shall be
Hey, Debating with you is fun.
It may look smart, however I am unconvinced of its purpose... Its gained nothing...
Its only "value adding" quality is Price adding...
I'm sure it looks clean, but really what is the focus now for these markets?
Where do I rest my left hand now?
I'm sure for the 'knob twiddlers' this vehicle will be wonderful, but there are some of us who are 'stick manipulators'
Seems they are losing purpose and becoming Form over function.
LR in times past was always Form followed function.
If I was looking to replace the current vehicle, I would wear the new controls for the purpose of still having the overall vehicle.
But if, there was a production choice... I would go conventional shifter + paddles for road / towing use.
ChatterBox
SubscriberI too would prefer the stick (with the paddles) - but as Mike says I'm not going to let that put me off the rest of the vehicle.
Meanwhile I guess I'll just have to enjoy driving it down to the cafe.
Cheers,
Jon
A Keeper of the TGO
good one Tombie!
If you want an Idea of how difficult it would be to use the paddles whilst steering beyond a 1/4 turn, try using your steering wheel audio controls during extensive steering manoeuvres - damn near impossible and potentially dangerous due to the concentration required.
Cheers,
Sean
“Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.” - Albert Einstein
ChatterBox
SubscriberBut how often do you change gears with the steering turned that far?
For me, I would say never.
Sand and mud driving I do it a lot...
Master
So is the red cable the new handbrake release for when the electronic system jams on when you're on the front of the barge with dozens of Nissans an Toyotas stuck behind you?
Surely by removing the gear lever that should have freed up enough space for a proper handbrake lever?
You'll see more and more move away from a lever... Levers introduce NVH.....
Master
It's surprising how quickly you get used to the flappy paddles. My other car has both paddles and stick for shifting, but I find myself using the paddles mainly, especially when it's being driven enthusiastically around bends.
Does take getting used to, but in such a situation, you don't want to take your hands off the wheel.
ChatterBox
As said, the park brake release is in the same spot,
The red cable lever is the gearbox neutral selector.
Cheers
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