Thread: Another TDV6 Crankshaft Bearing Failure

Yes it would seam that it is way more cost effective to get a new long engine than repair a stuffed one.

When I had mine done under warranty well over a year ago the workshop admitted they could buy a new long engine for around the $8,000 mark, from memory. The retail price was way more than that by quite a few thousand dollars.

All I would say is make sure they replace all the hoses, belts and pulleys etc at the same time as it is way cheaper to get it all done in one job. I'd also get the radiator properly cleaned not just flushed.

Make sure they mark which cylinder the injectors come out of and put them back in the same cylinders when they put it back together as well.

Good luck with it.

Sorry to hear about this, antelope, hell of a shame on what is a fairly robust engine that there are a few apparently silly design flaws.

Almost makes me think about selling mine.

What kind of service history does your car have? What year? How many km?

I'm trying to work out whether it is a year based thing or if it's happening across the board. So far it seems like earlier cars are most affected. Ie 2005-2006

I know of a 3 litre doing something similar which needed a new engine jobby couple of weeks prior to christmas. Is a 2009 D4 with approx 80000 km under it's belt.
Cheers
Steve

Originally Posted by Antellope

Hi All

Had the unfortunate experience of getting stuck 500km from home in our D3 on the weekend.
The crankshaft is jumping around like its on steroids. Oil comming past front seal.
After some hunting it seems this issue is becomming more common.
I have learn't the 2.7 now has the bearings from the 3.0. Hmmm
Done 190k.

Anyone recommend best place to get new engine. I hear thats probably more cost effective than repair.

Comments welcome. Oh, it happenned on my birthday.

I was wondering how you know the crankshaft has gone west, has the engine been dismantled.
The description you give "The crankshaft is jumping around like its on steroids. Oil comming past front seal."
Sounds like the crank damper is stuffed and allowing oil to escape from timing cover, in 40+ years of mechanicing I've never seen a "crankshaft" jumping around.
You need to get it inspected and see if the pulley/damper on the front of the crankshaft hasn't come loose, it would be an expensive exercise to buy a replacement engine when it might be that the crank/damper bolt needs tightening, Regards Frank.

Originally Posted by baldivistribe

I know of a 3 litre doing something similar which needed a new engine jobby couple of weeks prior to christmas. Is a 2009 D4 with approx 80000 km under it's belt

There was another 3.0Lt did the same here in Vic. Same year.
It had done 160K. The owner told me it was from constantly filling with bad fuel from the same servo. Similar reports had since come back to him.....same problem, same servo, different makes of vehicle????

Cheers, Craig

Yes and quite a few in South Africa that have been put down to poor quality diesel. Yet some engines have racked up very high kms without this occuring. Could be onto something re poor quality diesel.

Originally Posted by ~Rich~

Yes and quite a few in South Africa that have been put down to poor quality diesel. Yet some engines have racked up very high kms without this occuring. Could be onto something re poor quality diesel.

Poor quality diesel and also the fact that in South Africa the official servicing schedule at least at that time was every 25,000km for oil and filter changes. Way too infrequent. I've also seen that at least a few of these engines had oil analysis done which showed that the oil was in fact 20w50 where LR states specifically that there is to be no deviation from the recommended 5w30 fully synthetic with bearing failure being the possible consequence.

Add to that the fact that the some domestically manufactured oil in S Africa apparently is not very high quality - I remember seeing an analysis showing brand new oil that had a lower TBN than European oil that had been used for 10K miles. I remember reading this was possibly re-refined oil that had been repackaged.

This is why I'm particularly keen on hearing about Antellope's car's service history, being an Australian vehicle with our better quality oils and fuels - what oil, what viscosity, service interval, driving habits, etc.

Doesn't the engine go into limp mode when the oil pressure drops and the oil light comes on?

Check what Tank said about the damper coming loose if the engine was still running but noisy.
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