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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Jon, what's happened to your dash?
    The dashpad creaks. The first one was driving me nuts. The second one was nice and quiet for about a month but has also started creaking. Apparently some bits inside de-laminate because of the heat (didn't get to see it unfortunately). From what I am told it seems to be a common problem. It happened on my D3 as well.

    Mine lives outside so it gets a lot of sun, which doesn't help.

    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by jon3950 View Post
    I actually agree with what you are saying here. They get the big bits right, its just some of the details that let them down. I am thinking more of their consistent use of substandard materials (eg I am about to have to get my second dashboard replaced), fuel tanks that are not big enough and the innappropriate choice of rim sizes. No matter how much we defend it, with the current choice of tyres available, 19" rims are not the ideal size for a touring vehicle.

    A couple of weeks of hot weather testing is no substitute for living with these vehicles long term in this environment. Whether this market is worth it or not is a different argument.

    Cheers,
    Jon
    The 200 series,79 and 76 series all come fitted with 90ltre fuel tanks as standard,except for the 200 none have A/C as standard and all need GVM-suspension upgrades straight after purchase,as far as rims-tyres go all LR vehicles can pass the emergency brake test,the 200 and 76 can't,give me 19'' rims and brakes that work any day,hot weather testing?,I've driven my LR's in the hottest conditions Australia has to offer without issue,maintenance and common sense helps,hot weather testing is pointless when Australians insist on covering the front of their vehicles with ARB bullbars and 10'' spotties. Pat

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon3950 View Post
    The dashpad creaks. The first one was driving me nuts. The second one was nice and quiet for about a month but has also started creaking. Apparently some bits inside de-laminate because of the heat (didn't get to see it unfortunately). From what I am told it seems to be a common problem. It happened on my D3 as well.

    Mine lives outside so it gets a lot of sun, which doesn't help.

    Cheers,
    Jon
    Do what Tojo do,soak it in teflon spray. Pat

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon3950 View Post
    The dashpad creaks. The first one was driving me nuts. The second one was nice and quiet for about a month but has also started creaking. Apparently some bits inside de-laminate because of the heat (didn't get to see it unfortunately). From what I am told it seems to be a common problem. It happened on my D3 as well.



    Mine lives outside so it gets a lot of sun, which doesn't help.



    Cheers,

    Jon

    Mine lives outside too... Just had first dash top replaced as I had trouble with it and local dealer had 4 goes.

    Sniegys team replaced it at my end of warranty service.

    Makes 2 creaks each start and then perfect... I believe bull bars amplify this effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rufusking View Post
    It's been done. Now all we need is an AU automotive engineer to certify it for Australia.



    BRAKES KIT FOR WHEELS 17 ?D4 E RRS10 | MUDTECH 4?4

    No that's a small brake retrofit which has been done by Graeme.

    I'm talking a calliper with about 4mm of fins not there.
    That will enable 18s

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAT303 View Post
    Do what Tojo do,soak it in teflon spray. Pat
    Something along those lines is the first step. When that doesn't work they replace the dash.

    Its under warranty so not my problem, they can do what they like to fix it so long as the noise goes away.

    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Mine lives outside too... Just had first dash top replaced as I had trouble with it and local dealer had 4 goes.

    Sniegys team replaced it at my end of warranty service.

    Makes 2 creaks each start and then perfect... I believe bull bars amplify this effect.
    You're lucky then and I'm sure yours sees more sun than mine. May have been a bit unlucky with the second one as we had a few very hot days in Sydney not long after it was replaced. Still, it shouldn't happen.

    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by jon3950 View Post
    ... fuel tanks that are not big enough and the innappropriate choice of rim sizes. No matter how much we defend it, with the current choice of tyres available, 19" rims are not the ideal size for a touring vehicle.
    Amen brother

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    D4 standard 19" rims/tyres

    On the topic of speed and 19" wranglers - on the rough road up to a mates property (corrugated gravel with big washouts from the rain) my wife commented on my speed, she said "dear do you need me to drive ?" "Why" I responded and she said "because 15 years ago I can remember coming up here in Herbert our old Camry and we were going a lot faster and I'd like to get there today". Obviously I said "we will get there today my way, your way may have me changing a tyre so I'm with the driving".

    We were down Cape Otway way early in the year in the holden and on some dirt roads I was doing 20kmh and we had a similar conversation (19" 40 profile summer sport tyres). We got there but she wasn't too happy when I suggested she enjoy the view. She says I'm getting soft - I say she doesn't have to do the repairs or tyre changes ....

    My dash developed a split a couple of years ago - my solution was a dash mat and it hasn't gotten any worse.

    Totally agree with what has been said by Jon about the quality of some components (plastic coolant parts, suspension bushes, door seals).

    But generally I reckon the vehicle is built like a tank (and weighs about the same which is part of the issue with component wear).

    Tombie, your comment about 19" bridgestones - do you have any other info ? Do you know what kind of a 19 they are looking at producing ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon3950 View Post
    I actually agree with what you are saying here. They get the big bits right, its just some of the details that let them down. I am thinking more of their consistent use of substandard materials (eg I am about to have to get my second dashboard replaced), fuel tanks that are not big enough and the innappropriate choice of rim sizes. No matter how much we defend it, with the current choice of tyres available, 19" rims are not the ideal size for a touring vehicle.

    A couple of weeks of hot weather testing is no substitute for living with these vehicles long term in this environment. Whether this market is worth it or not is a different argument.

    Cheers,
    Jon
    LR have said that this will change in future models.

    Particularly with the Defender replacement,they will keep to "common" tyre and wheel sizes,what ever that means

    Maybe the thousands of complaints about the issue have at last got back to the designers.

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