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Thread: Help!! 2012 engine into 05 D3 issues 2.7

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    Hi everyone. Thanks for your feedback. Thus far gearbox appears fixed with valve body changed ie no faults but not road tested yet. Still have fuel pressure issue. Not sure about that I think the injector pump will have to be swapped to the old one.
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    I chose a 2012 territory engine and bought a 2012 disco 6 speed to go with it. No one mentioned the possibility of issues wth the box and I didn't anticipate any. Now they are saying as I am doing a "conversion" bad luck for me. Of course several people expressed concern about the engine being a ford unit however on inspection I was advised it appeared the same as an 09 LR unit. No one advised me that even an LR engine would be a problem if a later model. Will update again soon. In short it appears no one in nsw knows jack about doing anything other than charging 25k for an engine and 7k for a trans and quite happy to keep it that way. Might be time for a Toyota.

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    SS did you ask anyone on here for advice beforehand? Some cluey folk with the discos here and I am sure they would have advised you of the pitfalls quicksmart.

    You may also wish to consder that you ill have road worthy issues and insurance issues to deal with one you get "Frankenstein" alive?

    Just playing devils advocate here.

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    Question

    I'm no expert, but isn't there a bloke in NSW called "Bruce Davis"??,....who does a lot of mods/conversions etc?...maybe he can help?
    Pickles.

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    Silver Surfer, unfortunately you are in uncharted territory with both engine and gearbox. Another member has done an engine replacement successfully however I have not seen a gearbox done before from a different model.
    Forget the nay sayers and keep trying. As far as I'm concerned anybody who is trying to give this sort of thing a go needs all the support we can give.

    It is disappointing to see people being so negative and I hope you can work it out and post your results so others can follow your path. I really doubt you will have any roadworthy or insurance issues and think it will be just a matter of getting the new components to talk to your cars system.
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    Agree with Geedublya, seems maybe you needed some more expert advice before you started, but now you are here keep asking the questions, there are some very smart people here, I also don't think you should have roadworthy or insurance issues, it's not like you are trying to jam a 6.0 Hemi V8 into it, I think the main issues are likely to be the CANBUS and ECU issues that Greame outlined assuming your basic donor parts are ok.

    I hope you mange to get it sorted and tell us all about it along the way. I would like to know there are other options for me in the future if I am unfortunate enough to strike these kinds of problems.

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    The OP has posted that the gbox has already been sorted by swapping the mechatronics unit which includes the TCM in order to overcome the canbus incompatibility.
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    I was talking to a LR independant repairer who mentioned that he did a few mods to his vehicles for competitions (winch challenge etc) and they could get one of their transplanted motor's to run with autologic but it wouldnt run on its own until it had an update done with autoligic, which update, I dont remember. If there is an independant landy garage handy I would be talking to them.

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    Hi everyone. Thank u for your messages. Appreciate it very much. I still don't have the car back. Auto "fixed" although that means no faults are coming up. It hasn't been road tested yet. Engine wise being tested with original injector pump fitted and if that doesn't work injectors will be swapped as well. It appears that all the experienced people I spoke to have seen or heard of a later model being done and had no idea an early model would be any different. That is what has really caused the most trouble. Being a ford engine hasn't really been an issue at all. If I had a 2012 or even an 09 Disco engine I would have had the same problems. Nearly there I hope and my 25k or so disaster should become someone be else's 12k success story in the future. I hope

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    Magazine Story & D3's Computers Wouldn't Hand Shake New Parts

    Here is a magazine article about a D3 which had a major component swap out sand then the computers would not work properly.

    UNSEALED 4X4 ISSUE 007

    Not that despite its age the vehicle had a third party warranty which covered the vehicle.

    Anybody knowing of such policies, it would be good to post them here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Surfer View Post
    If I had a 2012 or even an 09 Disco engine I would have had the same problems.
    Not quite! They changed from making Euro III to Euro IV in about August of 2006 - there is quite a big difference to the pressures the injectors run at between them. So this would be a problem for your 05 model. Not if you tried fitting it to a MY07-MY12 2.7.

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