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    Thanks. Mmm same colour. Same wheels. Have a pic of mine in the hoist that looks just the same????
    Latest is old computer with newer injector pump appears to have killed the pump. This put a lot of metal into the fuel system via the return lines. Found this out after the old pump was used from old engine and it imploded after 5 minutes apparently due to metal fragments. Don't ask me why the filter doesn't stop it but I'm advised it doesn't. Now it's tank out for a flush. I assume fuel pump stuffed and also injectors will be binned. Bye bye maybe 3 more k. I was a die hard. Freelander XEDI, D2 TD5, Series 3, Series 1 ute, D3 petrol v6 and now this. The difficulty in getting the engine out etc plus the issues they can experience is enough for me. Deciding now if I try to drive it for years to get some value out of it risking more drama or cut my losses. Nothing's worth this much money and drama. I will have a 50000 dollar car worth 20000 if I ever get it back. If I was loaded I would have scrapped it.

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    Mate, you are made of stronger stuff than me, I would have pull the pin long ago.

    I guess the worse possible outcomes have been realised while travelling a road untrodden which really sucks. Don't know who has been doing the work for you but can't help but feel they have let you down in a big way. Are they a Landy specialist? There must be a point at which the shop has got to cop some of these stuff ups.

    I hope it comes together for you quick smart and gives you years of excellent service.

    good luck!
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    Far more patient or tolerant then I am, too many years working as a project manager dealing with contracts and contractors puts me straight into legal mode.

    Mate in my opinion your mechanic is incompentant. You need to ask then to redress these issues at their expene and if they refuse I would send them 1. letter of demand to rectify all issues, 2. further letter of demand for return of vehicle and all materials you have paid for.

    Then go talk to a solicitor, you have very sound grounds to litigate to recoup your losses.

    Many will jump on me with this stance but it is very clear this mechanic has not done his homework and keeps expecting you to pay as he makes expensive mistakes and learns what is required.

    Find a Landrover specialist and advise them the state of play to find out if they can get your vehicle to operable state. Then get your car back, rock up with a tilt tray and claim it.

    That is what I would do. Sheesh I really feel your pain on this one.

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    Thank you both. Sad thing is I have it with one of if not the best shop in nsw. It has been mentioned they will wear some of it. Hope it's done in a few days and the final bill will ultimately determine what I have to say about who. I hope they are fair and reasonable as they did some research and they were wrong. Fingers crossed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Surfer View Post
    It has been mentioned they will wear some of it.
    I wondered if this might happen when they were so obviously caught-out with the conversion.
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    Litigation. That will not help. Yes you might get some money but at what cost.

    Between patents, IP, OH&S and other legal constructs we have all but paralysed people from doing anything.

    ECU often need to know the calibration values/category of injectors. Injectors from another of the same engine will not run well unless the the ECU is give the new injector codes. I therefore think that swapping injectors between engines will need reprogramming of the ECU.

    All these problems can be solved however you require an understanding of the protocols and tools to explore, some working examples of the engines and gearboxes would also help. This would make a good hobby but not a problem you would want to pay someone else to solve.

    Let's hope your garage already have good knowledge of the various components and the different protocols so they can solve the remaining issues.
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    Maybe we're expecting too much out of what really is a smallish motor allready pushing 2 tonnes. Just because it's a v8 doesn't mean it's powerfull.

    One answer REV IT BABY REV IT!!!

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    Ladies and gents I am now looking at a 1998 falcon wagon for $1250 and it looks awesome. Certainly a lot better than 2 injectors for my D3. If anyone might be interested in a cheap project keep me in your thoughts. Otherwise it's 2 days away from becoming a cube. I'm am out of money and going no where fast. Sooking I know. But I think I have earned it!!
    Despite all logic suggesting otherwise new inj pump was fitted without changing to older model injectors and guess what? Wouldn't run. Well I'll be. Now they are hard to get out and 800 each x 6 and the ones coming out are
    Probably stuffed from metal from killing 2 pumps. I hope trying to run with the wrong injectors hasn't stuffed the pump. If it has game over for sure.

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    Jesus h Christ man that sucks.

    Surely somebody on here has some sound advice.

    There must be a solution to this mess to get it up and running.

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    Feeling the pain. If you do end up cutting your losses, I would think about stripping it for parts and only paying the bill based on what you recover. But there must be a way forward to resolve these issues.

    I have to ask, what happened to the original motor and transmission?

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    This is a tragedy all right.

    If it can be got to run, then you've got to sell it, and doing that might effect your conscience.

    Instead of the 1998 Falcon, look at a 90 series Prado. I bought one new in 1997, and still have it. it's mechanically fine ( a neighbour just reversed into its driver door though and and has not admitted it ... despite his D4 having paint scraped off his rear bumper's corner ). But there are excellent 90 series ones around, the Grande's are very nice, and they are extremely reliable, and fun to drive (the 120 is dull due to its weight). They sell for around $4k I think. The petrol uses a fair bit of fuel, but its reliable ... it gets in the 12 / 100 on the highway, if you use high octane, for 4,000 km (it takes time for the computer to adjust to better octane).

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