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Originally Posted by LandyAndy
That'd be right, when things aren't going the D4 drivers way they throw their rattles out of the pram. :p
Oops, damn, I shouldn't have mentioned rattles when Deefers are being discussed......
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Originally Posted by LandyAndy
That'd be right, when things aren't going the D4 drivers way they throw their rattles out of the pram. :p
Oops, damn, I shouldn't have mentioned rattles when Deefers are being discussed......
Well IF D4's are superior in every way thread is in the right place. I'm looking forward to the opportunity off roading with a D4 alongside either of my Defenders. Particularly over the long term, touring HD tracks. We'll see which is superior.... :angel:Quote:
Originally Posted by LandyAndy
Sorry fellas.
I though the fact that you blokes were discussing modifications was an admission of defeat.
If you are going to hang around how about a new coffee machine,plus some coffee milk and sugar.We have been making Terry pay for it all since he invited you rabble in here:p:p:p:p:p
Andrew
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Originally Posted by AndyG
GBR Utha hands down
Bloody oil everywhere over the shag pile carpet in our parking lot since you Deefer steerers turned up:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
Andrew
He he... I'll make you a real coffee anytime LandyAndy. But not sure you D4 guys could handle a real cafe doppio with no milk ...black as oil :pQuote:
Originally Posted by LandyAndy
Actually, the op admitted in the first post the only way a D3/4 can match a stock defender is if it's modified with the largest possible tyres. :D so that would make it an admission of defeat on page 1, post 1?:twisted:Quote:
Originally Posted by LandyAndy
Seriously though, lies, damm lies and statistics. lr's own numbers show defender better approach, departure and ramp. Narrower body, significantly lighter weight and better payload. Search online, defender fewer fatal accidents per 1000 2 vehicle smashes than disco, also defender better RTI.
Now here's a challenge for TerryO, insurance. What's the comprehensive cost on a new $65,000 defender and a new $80,000+ disco? This will tell you several things, how many are in prangs, how many do your theoretical tumble, and how often their at.fault..... See with virtually the entire alphabet in caps lock 3 letter block, inside a Disco, they should almost never be in an at fault accident, roll or have their occupants injured, so the Disco premium should be way less that the Defender. ;)
The fact the question was asked at all tells volumes, esp with a lot of one sided qualifications. Surprised car park roof height was not a criteria, that's off road by Disco standards :D
Biggest mistake I made was modding the Defer at all. stock does everything I want. Even the right tyre size.
Exactly. No mods needed. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyG