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    Quote Originally Posted by Celtoid View Post
    My HJ LE Monaro (GTS) was next to worthless in it's day ... it would now attract reasonable coin ...... 40+ years later (it took that long) ..... and there were a lot less of those.
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    Series 1s fetch good money especially in the united states. In fact most series vehicles fetch good money in the states.

    I have no doubts whats so ever my defender will be worth a bit a few years time providing its looked after well is not modified to the hilt and no one smashes in to it in the mean time.
    I'm not talking american muscle car money or Mercedes e class money but it will be worth something

    I believe even more so because its a 130.

    Only a couple of months ago one guy had been trying to buy a 130 and had not been able to find one he may have one now but he had been searching for ages and people were just not selling them.
    As i said when people cant find what they want they will often pay good money if they want it bad enough
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celtoid View Post
    My HJ LE Monaro (GTS) was next to worthless in it's day ... it would now attract reasonable coin ...... 40+ years later (it took that long) ..... and there were a lot less of those.
    There couldn't be any doubt that Defenders will be collectible in the same way VW Combi vans are - there were hundreds of thousands kicking around in their day. Whether they actually appreciate in value... hmmm! They sure hold their value scarily well.

    It's going to get harder and harder simply to keep D4 and L320s on the road compared to keeping Deefers going, which won't endear the former to the collectors and back yard restorers (whom we all know tend to have more time than money if they've got any of either!!).
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    It will be interesting to see what LR does with the new Defender, if they get it right and also include models like a 130 then present ones may or may not be desirable in the future.

    I have said it before I look forward to seeing what the new Defender really is like and what variations it comes in as it might be our next new LR.
    It's hard to imagine that it won't come in a decent sized crew cab given the number of them sold around the globe now, so let's wait and see if the present rattlers are worth anything in a couple of years time. Those expecting to make money on their Defenders better hope that LR get the new generation wrong or I reckon you will be pretty much stuffed if they get it right and you may in the future regret you did not sell yours now while suckers (sorry collectors) were paying way above normal market prices for secondhand ones.

    Just saying! ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart02 View Post
    There couldn't be any doubt that Defenders will be collectible in the same way VW Combi vans are - there were hundreds of thousands kicking around in their day. Whether they actually appreciate in value... hmmm! They sure hold their value scarily well.

    It's going to get harder and harder simply to keep D4 and L320s on the road compared to keeping Deefers going, which won't endear the former to the collectors and back yard restorers (whom we all know tend to have more time than money if they've got any of either!!).

    It's hard to speculate with any accuracy what will or won't be truly collectible in the future and by collectable I don't mean collectable like a Morris 1000 is, rather collectable like a split windscreen Kombi is. There are plenty of other later model Kombi's not worth bugger all, just because it's a Kombi that doesn't mean it's automatically collectable.

    Something to consider for those expecting their present pride and joys will be worth big bucks in the future is usually most collectable vehicles often only come into their own that far down the track that most of their original owners are now eating food through a straw in a old folks home or pushing up Daisy's, just like most original Series 1 Landy owners are now.

    Another thing is in the vast majority of cases for a mass produced vehicle to become collectable it has to go through a stage where it's worth nothing and most end up in the wreckers or left to rot out in a field. Once the number has dropped down to being ralatively rear then there is a chance that they may and it's only a may end up collectable down the track.

    My advice for what it is worth and probably that is not much, is just enjoy your preferred vehicle of choice now and use it for what you bought it for and if one day it's worth a serious bob then that is bonus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrLandy View Post
    Not many low km Defenders under $65K right now

    That's exactly where this thread started - you are paying near as much for a deefer truck as for a disco

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meken View Post
    That's exactly where this thread started - you are paying near as much for a deefer truck as for a disco
    Thank you Meken, I have been patiently waiting for someone to bring this up given early on some said my comment about this was incorrect.
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    Which is better Off Road a D3/4 or a late model Defender? ... Puma 110

    Quote Originally Posted by Meken View Post
    That's exactly where this thread started - you are paying near as much for a deefer truck as for a disco

    Yes you are but I also believe that as the years go buy the defender will hold its value better as been proven time and time again between defenders and discos over the years.

    Im glad i got mine and I have no plans to sell it. And even with the new defender coming out i still believe it will hold its value and demand.
    Because there are people out there that still crave the more basic car with a few mod cons.

    Im also very excited about the new defender. I have always said to Ian after I sold my disco to make way for the defender if we ever get a new car its my turn and it will be a disco

    However as the defender will be following along the lines of the disco platform i could be swayed that way again but it better be good.

    I love the defender, I love its look, i love its character, I love its interchangeability, I live its following I love the memories it has given me to date. The car just puts a smile on your face every time you drive it.
    But if I had the money I would also have a D4 it would be my car of choice to drive around all the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dullbird View Post

    I love the defender, I love its look, i love its character, I love its interchangeability, I live its following I love the memories it has given me to date. The car just puts a smile on your face every time you drive it.
    But if I had the money I would also have a D4 it would be my car of choice to drive around all the time.
    So it sounds like both Defender and Disco owners have permagrins because of the vehicles they choose to own and drive. ...
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    Yes but I'm not sure i would go as far to say i get out of it stumble around with a speech impediment hahahahha
    Our Land Rover does not leak oil! it just marks its territory.......




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    Quote Originally Posted by MrLandy View Post
    Not many low km Defenders under $65K right now
    You can put any price on anything,but how many are actually selling at that sort of price?

    It will also be interesting to see what happens in 12 months time when the big rush disappears,and people move on.

    My thoughts are the next Disco will be even more upmarket than the present vehicle,which will push many people into the new Defender market,which will be similar market to a D1 /2 in its day.And also have utility type variants as well.

    As i have said for a while a base model family wagon is needed in the range.

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