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Thread: Error codes U0001, U0103 & U0101 - Dealer says trailer power drain

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    Error codes U0001, U0103 & U0101 - Dealer says trailer power drain

    Hi all,
    I am looking for a sanity check from the forum brain's trust on some errors thrown by my car, and the diagnosis by the dealer. Sorry if it is long, but I want to recite anything which might be relevant.

    Background
    Our car is a 2016 D4 Landmark, bought new in June. It is unmodified, other than a Redarc tow controller that was fitted by the local LR dealer.
    We tow a 25ish year old car trailer with old-school bulb type lights, with 2 x blinkers, 6 x tail/running lights, and 2 x stop lights. It is connected to the LR black socket via a 7-pin flat-to-round adaptor. All up, trailer with race car on-board weights less than 1800 kgs.

    Incident
    About a week ago, my dearest and I headed down to Phillip Island for a race meet, towing our race car on a trailer. This was the first long trip for our new D4, and it had approx 2,000 kms on the odo at the start of the trip. The week before it had towed the same trailer to Eastern Creek and back, about 30 mins each way, with no issues.

    We left Hills District of Sydney on Thu morning, and after about an hour on the M2/M7/Hume we stopped at a rest stop just south of Camden for a leg stretch and for SWMBO to get a coffee :-) When I restarted the car after about 15 mins, there was one or more alarm noises, and the message centre displayed a number of warnings, Gearbox error, Park brake auto-release not available, etc

    We called LR Assist, and they sent an NRMA serviceman. After clearing the faults, he disconnected the trailer plug, and was able to induce the same errors again on restarting the car.

    With his agreement, I captured a photo of the errors reported on his console. They were:
    U0001 Bus for high-speed CAN communication
    U0103 Gear shift module - Last communication
    U0101 TCM Lost communication

    He diagnosed it as a "computer glitch", with no apparent mechanical fault, and after again clearing the errors, he advised us to proceed with care.

    The same fault occurred another 4 times over the following days of the trip, always on restarting the car after a stop while towing. Fortunately another member of our team, traveling in convoy with us, had an OBDII tool which allowed us to verify that it was a repeat of the same errors, before clearing those errors. In 2 cases, there appeared to have been even more errors reported on the message centre (eg ABS failure), and the car would not allow shifting from park and dropped to access height.
    In all cases, after clearing the errors, we were able to proceed, with no apparent ongoing issue.

    Diagnosis
    I left the car with the local LR dealer today, and showed them the screen-shot from the NRMA serviceman's console.
    They have rung and reported that their technicians say this error is caused by the trailer overloaded the electrical connection from the car.

    Does this sound realistic given the trailer has only lights, and that the error did occur once with the trailer electrically disconnected?

    Thanks for reading :-)

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    There is an issue where the BMS(Battery Management System) only charges when the vehicle on the "Over Run".
    To check out how yours is charging get a ciggy lighter voltage meter from JayCar,around $20.
    Go for a drive,note when your battery is charging.I will ALMOST bet my left nut that it is only charging at 12.3 to 12.5 whilst driving,when coasting downhill it will charge at the required 14.5V This is an economy feature,it will lead to poorly charged batteries.
    I had the issue,and have Traxides SC160 dual battery system.When the vehicle was parked for several weeks I was getting "low battery start engine now" warnings.
    Was talking to my shiny headed mate yesterday,his doesnt charge completely either.
    Im guessing all your old school bulbs are using more power than the vehicle is making.
    If you find you are getting the above charging you need to talk to your dealer,ask them to do the Gateway mudule software upgrade.Once done your alternator will charge at a much higher rate at idle and whilst driving,you will be able to note the difference on the voltage readout.
    I havent had any issues since the software upgrade was done.
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    Lost communication with a few modules. Certainly could be battery voltage related and definitely at top of the list for checking especially if the first 2000k's were short trips followed by longer under load trips where the battery would not get sufficient charge. Very new battery though. Check the battery terminals are not loosely fitted. I'll ask this question each time due to my unfortunate 1 week old experience. Do you have rear aircon fitted?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco4Dave View Post
    the message centre displayed a number of warnings, Gearbox error, Park brake auto-release not available

    U0001 Bus for high-speed CAN communication
    U0103 Gear shift module - Last communication
    U0101 TCM Lost communication
    My bet is a problem with the wiring to the gear selector or to the gearbox itself.
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    Thanks Andrew, Mungus & Graeme

    Andrew, I have a multimeter and should be able to find a spare lighter plug, so I will try what you suggested and check the battery voltage during vehicle operation.

    FWIW, when I collected the car yesterday the dealer reported that the battery had been tested and passed as "good", and they had done a "battery draw test" for 20 minutes, and "found 20 ma", so I am assuming that is a check of the parasitic drain on the battery.

    Mungus, given the testing done yesterday by the dealer the battery terminals "should" be tight, but I will check them tonight anyway. Yes, the car does have rear air con. Why?

    Graeme, a wiring problem is of course possible, but if so, why does this error only manifest on starting the car. An intermittent wiring problem would likely also cause faults at other times too?

    I also plan to check my trailer plug and 7 pin round/flat adaptor, just to be sure there is no possibility of intermittent shorts there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco4Dave View Post
    Yes, the car does have rear air con. Why?
    Rear a/c unit was slightly loose & caused an intermittent fault on his D4:
    See http://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-disco...d-reset-2.html for details.

    Perhaps errors are only on start-up due to faulting during the gear selection process (Park to Drive), which only occurs at start-up. Note this is just my guess, not factual.

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    Did the gear selector knob rise, did it get moved and did the car move off before the faults occurred? If the car moved off, how soon after did the faults occur?
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    Yikes Scott & Mungus,

    That was a nasty fault, and congrats to the tech for solving that puzzle.

    Scott, good idea, but my car faults almost immediately on starting, as soon as the engine fires, before I go anywhere near the gear selector.

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    As the gear selector knob rises as soon as the engine has started, any faults in its operation could trigger an immediate fault. The fault could be as simple as an improperly fitted connector on the gear-shift module.
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    Just a quick report with some further information.

    First a recap. Previously we had a bunch of faults thrown almost immediately after starting the car. This occurred at least 5 times on a trip from Sydney to Phillip Island and return, always on starting the car after a rest stop. We were towing our car trailer.

    Last weekend we took the race car to Goulburn, with the same towing setup as previously. When taking a rest stop I would disconnect the trailer electrics from the car, and then leave it disconnected when restarting the car. Once the car was started and had been running for about 30 seconds, I would reconnect the trailer.

    Out of 4 instances, there was no problem in 3 cases, but in one case the same errors were thrown immediately on reconnecting the trailer.

    This suggests to me that the cause does lie with the trailer, as I can't it would be a voltage problem in that scenario, nor would a gear knob fault be the likely cause.

    I plan to closely inspect all the wiring on the trailer, and probably replace some of the 8 tail/running lights with LEDs equivalents. I may also try disconnecting each of the powered light circuits in the trailer plug, leaving earth connected, then reconnecting them individually while trying to disconnect/reconnect the trailer to the car, and so narrow down which circuit is the likely culprit.

    Any thoughts please?

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