Results 1 to 10 of 10

Thread: Need Help - D4 Engine fault and Limp mode

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Aug 2016
    Location
    Melbourne
    Posts
    282
    Total Downloaded
    0

    Need Help - D4 Engine fault and Limp mode

    Hi Guys,

    I need some assistance from all your combined wealth onknowledge.

    The other day I was unfortunate enough to have my D4 ( 3.0TDV6 2016 55,000km ) throw up an engine fault ( yellow engine symbol on dash )and the engine go into limb mode when travelling on a gentle hill up (MaroondahHwy ) 80 km/h 7th gear around 1,400 rpm. I pulled into side road,stopped the engine and checked for oil/fluid leaks - nothing. Restarted engine15 minutes later and still engine fault/limp mode. Called LR assist and RACVman came, connected “orange “ coloured scan tool. No error codes showed up andwhen scan tool disconnected engine fault/limp mode gone. Quickly test drove vehiclearound neighbouring roads and hills while RACV man waited but no fault againand vehicle back to normal. Have been driving vehicle for 10 days now onbitumen roads around town and no more faults.

    Any thoughts on what might have happened ? When the “enginefault” symbol occurs and goes into limp mode does this only happen with enginefaults or includes transmission faults ? Is there a separate transmission faultsymbol ? Is there any way to reset from enginefault/limp mode by myself without using a scan tool ? I am now just a bitconcerned this may happen on a 4WD track without notice and I’m going to be stuck.

    Any additional info or thoughts would be greatly appreciated.The vehicle has been fault free up to this time.

  2. #2
    LRD414's Avatar
    LRD414 is offline Super Moderator Subscriber
    Join Date
    Oct 2014
    Location
    Brisbane
    Posts
    3,737
    Total Downloaded
    0
    Could be quite a few things and without an iiD tool (or similar) you'll be none the wiser. Codes are likely to be held in "Pending" list but not available to a generic code reader and if so would shed light on whether it's air inlet related or something else. Most likely issue is air inlet (hose etc) however, my Restricted Performance fault, which was air inlet related, was a red triangle so not a matching symptom to yours.

    Scott
    D4 TDV6 MY14 with Llams, Tuffant Wheels, Traxide DBS, APT sliders & protection plates, Prospeed Winch Mount w/ Carbon 12K, Mitch Hitch & Drifta Drawers
    Link to my D4 Build Thread
    D3 2005 V8 Petrol
    Ex '77 RRC 2 door. Long gone but not forgotten.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jan 1970
    Location
    NSW SW Slopes
    Posts
    12,030
    Total Downloaded
    0
    Definitely an engine fault rather than gearbox. Some faults will keep showing the fault condition until a specific drive condition occurs that triggers the cancellation of the fault message - eg have to get to a specific speed without the fault re-occurring or be fault-free for a number of engine starts.
    MY21.5 L405 D350 Vogue SE with 19s. Produce LLAMS for LR/RR, Jeep GC/Dodge Ram
    VK2HFG and APRS W1 digi, RTK base station using LoRa

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Aug 2016
    Location
    Melbourne
    Posts
    282
    Total Downloaded
    0
    I have considered getting an iiD Tool . I think they are around $800 ?????

    Unlike the generic scan tool the RACV man had, would the iiD Tool be able to read the "historical" error code of when the engine fault / limp mode previously happened ?

    Frustrating thing is the vehicle has been faultless for 2 years and currently drives perfectly but this incident has just left me with a "reliability" and lingering concern it may go into limp mode again while I am actually 4WD up a steep track in a park, and I don't have any way off clearing the fault and getting out of limp mode.


    I guess I could book it into a LR dealer and see if they can read the error code from the previous engine fault ( as vehicle under warranty ).
    Attached Images Attached Images

  5. #5
    LRD414's Avatar
    LRD414 is offline Super Moderator Subscriber
    Join Date
    Oct 2014
    Location
    Brisbane
    Posts
    3,737
    Total Downloaded
    0
    Yes my historical codes could be read by iiD and the dealer system when not displayed in dash at all a few days after event but I don’t know if that would be true for all codes or all types of fault.

    Scott
    D4 TDV6 MY14 with Llams, Tuffant Wheels, Traxide DBS, APT sliders & protection plates, Prospeed Winch Mount w/ Carbon 12K, Mitch Hitch & Drifta Drawers
    Link to my D4 Build Thread
    D3 2005 V8 Petrol
    Ex '77 RRC 2 door. Long gone but not forgotten.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Jan 1970
    Location
    NSW SW Slopes
    Posts
    12,030
    Total Downloaded
    0
    The generic tool may have been able to clear all faults even if it couldn't read them so the fault may no longer be retrievable. However with your own tool if limp mode re-occurs then you will at least be able to record the fault for later assessment even if the fault code is meaningless to you, then clear it and keep going.

    I had an occasion to contact my dealer with retrieved fault codes which then enabled me to fix the fault myself rather than have the D4 trucked to the nearest dealer 200 kms away.
    MY21.5 L405 D350 Vogue SE with 19s. Produce LLAMS for LR/RR, Jeep GC/Dodge Ram
    VK2HFG and APRS W1 digi, RTK base station using LoRa

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Canberra
    Posts
    121
    Total Downloaded
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by Garfield View Post
    I have considered getting an iiD Tool . I think they are around $800 ?????

    ...
    FYI, in November 2017 I paid AS$639.74 (£355 pounds) for the GAP IID BT delivered from the UK.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Aug 2016
    Location
    Melbourne
    Posts
    282
    Total Downloaded
    0
    Thanks Graeme, Scott and iannicki for all the info.

    It looks like the GAP IID BT tool maybe a worth while investment - especially if I'm going to keep the vehicle for a few more years.

    I just emailed Island 4 x 4 for an up dated shipping price.

    I just did a silly thing and actually read the manual where it states a solid amber engine symbol could be an emission problem. Doesn't sound right to me ?

    ENGINE/TRANSMISSION (AMBER)
    Illuminates briefly, as a bulb check,
    when the ignition is switched on. If
    the lamp illuminates when the
    engine is running, there is an
    emissions-related fault with the
    engine or transmission. The vehicle
    can be driven, but may enter
    Limp-home mode with the
    possibility of reduced performance.
    Seek qualified assistance as soon as
    possible.
    If the warning lamp flashes while the engine is
    running, reduce speed and seek qualified
    assistance urgently.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    wangi nsw
    Posts
    96
    Total Downloaded
    0
    I have a gap tool that will no longer be required after Friday if you are interested

    Sent from my E6653 using Tapatalk

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Aug 2016
    Location
    Melbourne
    Posts
    282
    Total Downloaded
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by Bobc163 View Post
    I have a gap tool that will no longer be required after Friday if you are interested

    Sent from my E6653 using Tapatalk
    Thanks Bobc163 but had already order a IID BT Tool from Island 4 x 4 .Should arrive in a couple of days.

    Hopefully if I have any more trouble with engine faults / limp mode I can clear myself and get back on the road.

    Frustrating thing is the vehicle and engine drive perfectly now, just concerned it will go into limp mode again for know apparent reason.


    Once gain thanks guys for your help and advice on this.

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Search AULRO.com ONLY!
Search All the Web!