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    Quote Originally Posted by John_D2 View Post
    I’m so far a D2 guy who does his own trans servicing. Can I do my own d4 trans/diffs, etc? Otherwise about how much am I looking at from a shop?
    I've done all the servicing on my ZF 6HP28, diffs and transfer case, no worries on the D4

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    Quote Originally Posted by John_D2 View Post
    Hi. We’re looking at upgrading to a D4. We’re looking for a TDV6 and have found a local 2010 2.7 6 speed with 78000km at a good price, plus the colour matches our camper trailer!

    Now I don’t know a huge amount about the D4, but is there any advantage on spending $8k-$10k more to get a 3.0 8 speed? Looking at a long term purchase.

    We’d be getting a LR shop to check it over prior to purchase. What models should we avoid, plus what are some common problems?

    Thanks in advanced.
    My son has a 2008 D3 HSE with 174,000 klms and and I drive it 3 times p/week to collect his children as it has child seats fitted. My MY13 D4 3.0 TDV6 has 117,000 klms. I very much enjoy driving his D3 and apart from the superb 8 speed box I reckon his D3 is every bit as good as my D4. The 8 speeder is particularly brilliant when towing, as using the paddle shifts to stay within engine torque range is so easy and effortless. Although the MY13 has the bigger brakes and (i was told) some suspension changes (true??) I think his D3 rides slightly better, most likely due to the 18" tyres. I'd be perfectly happy with a D3 if I wasn't towing as it is a more simple engine to maintain and the TDV6 is not a whole lot faster than his 2.7 its just that the 8 speeder makes it so due to faster smoother shifts and of course the extra ratios.
    Now, how about a D3 with the 8 speed auto!!! Nice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Discodicky View Post
    . I'd be perfectly happy with a D3 if I wasn't towing as it is a more simple engine to maintain and the TDV6 is not a whole lot faster than his 2.7 its just that the 8 speeder makes it so due to faster smoother shifts and of course the extra ratios.
    Now, how about a D3 with the 8 speed auto!!! Nice!
    The only way to distinguish is 2.7 v 3.0 as the 2.7 was identified as the TDV6 throughout the D3 and early D4 series (vs petrol V6 or V8) when eventually the low power 3.0 took over this before SDV6 was introduced just in case it got too confusing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Discodicky View Post
    My son has a 2008 D3 HSE with 174,000 klms and and I drive it 3 times p/week to collect his children as it has child seats fitted. My MY13 D4 3.0 TDV6 has 117,000 klms. I very much enjoy driving his D3 and apart from the superb 8 speed box I reckon his D3 is every bit as good as my D4. The 8 speeder is particularly brilliant when towing, as using the paddle shifts to stay within engine torque range is so easy and effortless. Although the MY13 has the bigger brakes and (i was told) some suspension changes (true??) I think his D3 rides slightly better, most likely due to the 18" tyres. I'd be perfectly happy with a D3 if I wasn't towing as it is a more simple engine to maintain and the TDV6 is not a whole lot faster than his 2.7 its just that the 8 speeder makes it so due to faster smoother shifts and of course the extra ratios.
    Now, how about a D3 with the 8 speed auto!!! Nice!
    How would the 2.7 go with a 1.8t camper? Still leaning towards the 2.7 as it’s many thousands cheaper. Plus from what I understand I could always get it remapped?

    When I drive & tow I’m a nana. I usually tow at 95 & definitely not more than 100. I work in emergency services so I drive fast at work. I know that driving fast really only increases the chance of crashing & doesn’t really get you anywhere fast. Besides, how much of a rush are u in when u go camping?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PerthDisco View Post
    The only way to distinguish is 2.7 v 3.0 as the 2.7 was identified as the TDV6 throughout the D3 and early D4 series (vs petrol V6 or V8) when eventually the low power 3.0 took over this before SDV6 was introduced just in case it got too confusing.
    From what I understand a 3.0 TDV6 is the same as a 3.0 SDV6 except the SDV6 puts out a bunch more power and torque. That’s right isn’t it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by John_D2 View Post
    From what I understand a 3.0 TDV6 is the same as a 3.0 SDV6 except the SDV6 puts out a bunch more power and torque. That’s right isn’t it?
    Correctamundo- same 3.0 engine, same twin turbos, different output

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    Quote Originally Posted by PerthDisco View Post
    Correctamundo- same 3.0 engine, same twin turbos, different output
    Not forgetting the 2010-2011 were full output 3.0L TDV6. At introduction of the term SDV6 the 3.0L TDV6 became the downrated version. Simple hey!

    To be clear, when there was a 2.7 and 3.0L in the D4 lineup, the 3.0L was full power. When they dropped the 2.7L they introduced the term SDV6 which is when two power variants of the 3.0L came to be, with the TDV6 being the lower. This means you can buy an early full power model.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoJeffster View Post
    Not forgetting the 2010-2011 were full output 3.0L TDV6. At introduction of the term SDV6 the 3.0L TDV6 became the downrated version. Simple hey!

    To be clear, when there was a 2.7 and 3.0L in the D4 lineup, the 3.0L was full power. When they dropped the 2.7L they introduced the term SDV6 which is when two power variants of the 3.0L came to be, with the TDV6 being the lower. This means you can buy an early full power model.
    Boy that’s confusing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by John_D2 View Post
    Boy that’s confusing!

    Nah - easy (if I have it right)

    Early 3L were the ducks nuts when running alongside the 2.7.
    When the 2.7 was discontinued, think of it as being replaced by the new 3L TD which had a power rating between the 2.7 and the old 3L.
    The replacement 3L TD had a lower power rating and the original 3L was renamed to the SD (twin turbo).
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    Quote Originally Posted by John_D2 View Post
    How would the 2.7 go with a 1.8t camper? Still leaning towards the 2.7 as it’s many thousands cheaper. Plus from what I understand I could always get it remapped?
    Our 2.7 D3 was remapped after we bought it. Ours plus remap roughly equals the 3.0 TDV6. Then the 3.0 SDV6 is more potent again.

    Our camper trailer is 1.3T and I have to make sure that I only do what I need to when passing roadtrains. Hitting 130 and still accelerating isn't always required.

    Hence to answer your question I believe the 2.7 will be adequate for you 1.8T camper. And as you say there is always the option to remap if required. Whichever version you get you will find it a huge, but very enjoyable, change from the D2. All the best with your deliberations.
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