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    New car can it keep up

    Old mans just purchased a new car

    Is this going to keep up to a Nissan patrol ?

    Reason I ask is we do some serious 4wding .

    Will it need many modifications? What are the leak points ?

    We don't mind doing a little bit of fab work to get it up to the Nissan patrols 4x4 level.

    I do stuff like this for a living nissan patrol leaf to coil conversion so if we have to do some cutting grinding moving / fabricating I don't mind .


    We like the car I self and how it drive , we hope not to have to do much . That's why we are asking what can you guys tell us about these vehicles ?

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    Those tires or should i say rubber bands will be an issue not being able to air down, depends on how you drive your pootrol.
    If your a plant it and hope for the best or have 35's on beadlocks then don't bother, with decent rubber they are very capable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gcpbuddy View Post

    Is this going to keep up to a Nissan patrol ?

    We don't mind doing a little bit of fab work to get it up to the Nissan patrols 4x4 level.
    It will easily out perform a standard Patrol but then the Patrols do need a lot of mods and most have them - the same range of modifications is not available for the Disco.

    Unfortunately many people like to compare standard Discos with highly modified jappers - the Discos still quite well.

    For the Disco - it is pretty much the same as other vehicles

    the right tyres
    the right wheels
    underbody protection
    rock sliders
    fit LLAMs but you will still not get the same lift as a comp patrol
    you could get a ARB locker for the disco (front diff only I think but not sure).

    If you want a comp truck get your dad a Patrol but if you want a comfortable cruiser offroad stay the Disco.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gcpbuddy View Post
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    We like the car I self and how it drive , we hope not to have to do much . That's why we are asking what can you guys tell us about these vehicles ?
    With a descent set of tyres,thats 18",it will out do a stock patrol in the rough stuff all day.There is no comparison.

    It will also come very close,to one that has dual lockers,in most situations.A mate has one with dual lockers.

    Remember the D4 is a completely different animal to a vehicle such as a patrol,it will take a quite while to work out how to get the most out of it.

    It is very capable.

    Its full of electronics,a good read on here will give an idea how to use it,particularly in the rough stuff.Read the handbook that comes with the vehicle,but its only a sort of guide,the more important stuff will be on here.

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    Learn how to use the electronics, as in traction control , put some decent rubber on it and you will be surprised at where it will go.

    hopefully your dad shows the rest of you up.

    post up the results ,good or bad as it will be interesting , especially if you compare stock to stock vehicles, not a twin locked patrol against a D4 with 20 inch road tyres

    Cheers Bulletman

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    Thanks for the input, definitely keep you guys all updated!

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    Had to laugh at an article in the now defunct Oz 4wd where they took their highly modified Jaspers up Mt Walker.
    They broke the steering on one and it was a mammoth effort involving winching etc.
    The same week there was an article I think on here where 12 stovck D3- D4 had done the trip with no winching and no damage.

    regards PhilipA

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    We've got both here...lots of modded Patrols and had D2 and now D4 SC. The D2 easily went wherever the Pats on 35s went cept when they fitted 37s to the Trols and went into areas really only suited to a D7 dozer...but that is not your normal 4wdriving and I would not do that to a D2...nor a D4..as lots of panel damage often occurs..and mechanical too even on the Trols. But they are cheap to fix.

    The D4/D3 is a level above the D2 in terms of on road and off road performance. We have a test track on the farm called mini werriby. The D4 has a std rear locker and will drive the track. The difference is that the Trols charge up all wheels spinning...car jumping and slamming around. ..engine screeming etc... all very exciting to watch.

    The D4.. well it just cruises up slowly and steadily with the suspension and traction control and diff lock doing its stuff...on road tyres too. Pays to force it into max height tho.

    As my boys say it's boring to watch but impressive never the less.

    So depends on what level of "action" you are looking for I guess.

    Of course on road the D4 slaughters the Trols in every respect☺

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    I had a 2007 STS zd30 manual patrol from new. Went to town on it with accessories, suspension & high end chips & engine mods. Kept the vehicle for 11 years, and changed springs & shocks on it 3 times in an attempt to obtain a softer ride. In the end sold it due to chronic lower back pain issue. After abuse, never broke anything on the patrol, other than auto locking hubs, but that's a known issue.
    Bought a 2011 RRS in standard form (same suspension as D4) and it was the best thing I have ever done. Performance, ride, and 4wd abilities, it makes the patrol feel like a tractor. Done the Caernarvon track in SA with the RRS, and was excellent in every way. I did need to turn of hill decent as it nearly put me through the front window cresting hills off the throttle. 18" alloys copped some gouging, but ground clearance wasn't an issue when it was raised.
    Youll love the D4.
    The upgrade from leaf spring to coil spring, is the same upgrade from coil spring to airbag suspension.
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    My previous car was a very capable and driveable 02 Patrol that i built from scratch.
    2 Inch lift, 33 inch tyres, Rock sliders, winch, etc.

    Got me in and out of everywhere I wanted to go, recovered lots and lots of vehicles, and I never relied on another car to recover me. I am usually alone so it was vital that I was self sufficient and obviously not going places I knew I couldn't get out of.
    I sold it as it was getting a bit old. It was a hard choice as my Patrol was much loved, had everything I needed and was always ready to go to a camping or hunting trip.

    When i decided on buying my Discovery 3, I chose it becuase of the luxury and comfort, and the offroad capability (as well as having room for the kids as they are getting older now)
    I was quite worried that it wouldn't be able to access the same places the Patrol could go - especialy with the tyre choices but I will be upgrading to 18's with 260's or 265's (not too sure yet, still decidedinb, but LRD414 here runs 260's and he really gives his 4x4 a good offroad test, including trips to cape york and it holds up amazingly well).

    I think a disco 3/4 can easily keep up with a lifted patrol on 33's. Once you start comparing to any patrol or cruiser on 35's, well there's not many cars that can keep up unless they have matching rubber.
    The other thing also, is that I wouldn't even consider putting my Disco into a boghole, just for the sake of it. But never had any quams taking the patrol through one....so there's def a change of mindset too, on where you want to take the car!

    Enjoy!

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