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    Axial rose joint vs original rubber bushes

    Gents,
    question to those in the know. I am looking at replacing all the arms on my D3.

    At present in my shopping list I have all original spec parts using Lemforder gear.

    For the upper rear arms there is a kit of bits that uses Lemforder arm for the RRS Sport and according to the vendor these use a axial rose joint in lieu of the normal rubber bush.

    Trying to find out if this is best option or not? From what I have read that will make the old girl feel "planted", better performance but perhaps at the expense of increased noise and vibration, harsher ride.

    Anyone have experience of these types?

    KIT615HD- L Original Lemforder Rear Upper Arm Kit Discovery 3 + OEM Bolt Kits

    These are the arms as fitted to the Range Rover Sport L320. The metal frames are identical but the bushes are different, most importantly the rear bush is an axial design working like a bearing rather than a fixed bush, this is the usual failure point on the standard Discovery arm.

    ta

    cheers
    Peter

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    No experience but the original rubber ones lasted this long so I'd stick with them rather than an unknown.
    MY08 TDV6 SE D3- permagrin ooh yeah
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    Quote Originally Posted by loanrangie View Post
    No experience but the original rubber ones lasted this long so I'd stick with them rather than an unknown.
    and anything that may lead to a harsher ride puts me off, I don't want to be a boy racer doing the tokyo drift!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterOZ View Post
    and anything that may lead to a harsher ride puts me off, I don't want to be a boy racer doing the tokyo drift!!
    Just add some 22's,fully Sik bro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by loanrangie View Post
    Just add some 22's,fully Sik bro.

    bwhahahha and tyres 3mm thick doof doof doof yo yo

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    I have them and they’re great. No additional NVH.
    2010 TDV6 3.0L Discovery 4 HSE
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoJeffster View Post
    I have them and they’re great. No additional NVH.
    what was the difference you found with them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterOZ View Post
    what was the difference you found with them?
    I didn’t study them too much. They’re still a bush with rubber, but a different design.
    2010 TDV6 3.0L Discovery 4 HSE
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterOZ View Post
    Gents,
    question to those in the know. I am looking at replacing all the arms on my D3.

    At present in my shopping list I have all original spec parts using Lemforder gear.

    For the upper rear arms there is a kit of bits that uses Lemforder arm for the RRS Sport and according to the vendor these use a axial rose joint in lieu of the normal rubber bush.

    Trying to find out if this is best option or not? From what I have read that will make the old girl feel "planted", better performance but perhaps at the expense of increased noise and vibration, harsher ride.

    Anyone have experience of these types?

    KIT615HD- L Original Lemforder Rear Upper Arm Kit Discovery 3 + OEM Bolt Kits

    These are the arms as fitted to the Range Rover Sport L320. The metal frames are identical but the bushes are different, most importantly the rear bush is an axial design working like a bearing rather than a fixed bush, this is the usual failure point on the standard Discovery arm.

    ta

    cheers
    Peter
    Exactly the same kit I put on, no issues. I think tyre pressure affects nvh a lot more than these bushes do.

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    Rose joints are illegal in Australia .
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