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  1. 25th September 2007, 12:48 PM #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonMcGr View Post
    Ron,

    Check out: http://www.carkeys.co.uk/features/in.../2005/6070.asp

    Jaguar's V8 Diesel

    by David Morgan (11 May 05)
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    This autumn, the current XJ flagship gains the 2.7-litre V6TD engine already used in the latest S-Type and Land Rover's new Discovery and Range Rover Sport.
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    Although the twin-turbo 206bhp 2.7TD in the S-Type and the 193bhp single turbocharged 2.7TDV6 in Discovery are well-suited to their tasks, there's no denying the market needs a Jaguar/Land Rover TDV8 for prestige XJ models, Ranger Rover and the Sport.
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_Rover_Discovery

    "The engines used in the Discovery 3 were all taken from Land Rover's sister company, Jaguar. A 2.7-litre, 195 horsepower (145 kW) V6 diesel engine (the TdV6) was intended to be the biggest seller in Europe. For the US-market and as the high-performance option elsewhere, a 4.4 litre petrol V8 of 300 horsepower (223 kW) was chosen. A 216 horsepower 4.0-litre sohc V6 petrol engine taken from the Ford stable was available in North America and Australia. Before launch, there were rumours that Land Rover may introduce the diesel unit to the American market, but the use of high-sulphur diesel fuel there, for which the TdV6 is not designed, made this fitment unlikely."

    As far as I'm aware, Landrover are still using Jaguar engines and next year the Ford Falcon will have the new Jaguar 5 litre V8

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    Ron

    Diesel engines were develpoed by ford and PSA .

    PSA is Peugeot/Citroen Group.
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  2. 25th September 2007, 01:20 PM #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by HSVRangie View Post
    Diesel engines were develpoed by ford and PSA .

    PSA is Peugeot/Citroen Group.
    Michael.
    True, to a point.
    While the first two phases of the project were led by PSA Peugeot Citroën, Phase 3 was led by Ford Motor Company. This was the production of a high performance V6 six-cylinder 24-valve unit, announced in June 2003. The first product to benefit from this engine was the Jaguar S-Type, followed by the Peugeot 607. Since then, it has also been installed in the Land Rover Discovery, Range Rover Sport and the new Jaguar XJ and will be fitted in the Peugeot 407 Coupe and the Citroën C6 when both cars are launched on the market.

    Of couse we all know what companies Ford own.

    I know it is splitting hairs, however The French make small engines now. Larger engines in Citroen/Peugoet, usually came from another company, Maserati in a version om the Citroen V6 SM and Volvo in the earlier (PVR) Peugoet V6.

    Being in the QLD Jaguar Drivers Club, I get to hear all things to do with Land Rover, Jaguar.
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  3. 25th September 2007, 06:32 PM #23
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    Forget the V6 and the TDV6 and join the lonely but elusive V8 club . Mine gets about 14.3-14.6/ 100kms, so on average over 500kms to a tank. I have received costings on a 115 litre auxillary tank with the current 85litres giving me 200litres, bobs ya uncle,

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  4. 25th September 2007, 07:12 PM #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevo68 View Post
    Forget the V6 and the TDV6 and join the lonely but elusive V8 club . Mine gets about 14.3-14.6/ 100kms, so on average over 500kms to a tank. I have received costings on a 115 litre auxillary tank with the current 85litres giving me 200litres, bobs ya uncle,

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    Mmmm Like that idea!

    Not so sure SWMBO will like the price though!
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  5. 26th September 2007, 04:58 AM #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevo68 View Post
    Forget the V6 and the TDV6 and join the lonely but elusive V8 club . Mine gets about 14.3-14.6/ 100kms, so on average over 500kms to a tank. I have received costings on a 115 litre auxillary tank with the current 85litres giving me 200litres, bobs ya uncle,

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    Stevo,

    Where does the aux tank fit and how much?

    Cheers.
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  6. 26th September 2007, 06:08 AM #26
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    Has anyone got the twin long range tanks fitted?

    Those that fit in the centre on both sides.

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  7. 26th September 2007, 08:22 AM #27
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    Stevo,

    Where does the aux tank fit and how much?

    Cheers.
    Hey mate, first you would need a rear wheel carrier, there is a full length rear bar like mine or there is another mob that just does the rear wheel carrier. THe aux tank replaces the current spare space. Price so far is about $1394 + $240 for fitting,

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  8. 26th September 2007, 12:59 PM #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonMcGr View Post
    Has anyone got the twin long range tanks fitted?

    Those that fit in the centre on both sides.

    Cheers,
    Ron
    In a Disco 3? The standard fuel tank is already on the drivers side and from memory there isn't room on the passengers side.
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  9. 26th September 2007, 03:13 PM #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigJon View Post
    In a Disco 3? The standard fuel tank is already on the drivers side and from memory there isn't room on the passengers side.
    Sorry, D1
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  10. 26th September 2007, 10:37 PM #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by cartm58 View Post
    ... spend $20, 000 to $30,000 and get a second hand series 2 with all the fruit and put the $40,000 plus savings into shares or your superannuation.
    It comes back to the same equation anyway - buy a V8 Series II and get incredible value for money (but difficult resale) or pay a $5K to $10K premium and buy a diesel Series II (with its list of faults such as oil in the wiring harness, tendency to overheat and crack heads, etc).

    I'm an accountant. I've done the maths before, and the premium price of diesels seldom makes financial sense unless you are keeping the car for *well* over 100,000km. LPG is the way to go if the D3 can use it(?).

    IMHO the only real reasons to buy diesels are:
    - significant off-road
    - significant towing
    - long term ownership

    Despite better fuel economy, I'm unconvinced that the diesels are better for the planet than gas-guzzling petrol V8s or V6s. Those nasty particulates worry me...

    Chris
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