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Thread: L322 Snorkel/Raised Air Intake.

  1. #11
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    Thanks Graeme. I think I'd rather the 3.6.

    I didn't know the 4.4 had a sequential turbo setup.
    L322 tdv8 poverty pack - wow
    Perentie 110 wagon ARN 49-107 (probably selling) turbo, p/steer, RFSV front axle/trutrack, HF, gullwing windows, double jerrys etc.
    Perentie 110 wagon ARN 48-699 another project
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    I would have preferred non sequential too but I want the electronic shocks and the 8-speed gbox too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graeme View Post
    I would have preferred non sequential too but I want the electronic shocks and the 8-speed gbox too.
    I like the idea of an 8 speed. However, unique part numbers of left and right auto adjustment shocks puts me off, esp after Greg Milner's experience.
    L322 tdv8 poverty pack - wow
    Perentie 110 wagon ARN 49-107 (probably selling) turbo, p/steer, RFSV front axle/trutrack, HF, gullwing windows, double jerrys etc.
    Perentie 110 wagon ARN 48-699 another project
    Track Trailer ARN 200-117
    REMLR # 137

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    I upgraded to a D4 from a D2 to get away from compromises with steel springs but now want to get away from fixed-valving shock compromises.

    I would look at carrying a single non-CVD spare rear shock if embarking on a severe trip like Greg's.
    MY21.5 L405 D350 Vogue SE with 19s. Produce LLAMS for LR/RR, Jeep GC/Dodge Ram
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    Graeme, are you sure that the variable valving will make a significant difference for your type of driving? Won't the electronic shocks still be a compromise with the valving determined by LR, which may or may not be what you want, or are they user adjustable within a broad range?
    Bob

    2010 D4 3.0TDV6 SE, ediff, LLAMS, 5 x GOE wheels, LT285/60R18 BFG K02's, GOE Compressor Guard, LR Tank, Mitch Hitch, ECB Bull Bar, Kaymar Rear Bar, Traxide, Safari Snorkel.
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    I can't guarantee that LR has set its CVD algorithms to provide what I'm looking for but CVDs are used in top of the line luxury vehicles to provide a better ride than conventional shocks. I can't be sure of the reason why a 2010 RRS glided past my then new D4 that was thumping its way along a rough section of the free-way heading north from Melbourne but at the time I wasn't aware that CVDs were an option on the RRS. I've been the full circle with my D4's shocks but even the currently-fitted more sedate 2012 updated versions still don't provide the ride to allow my wife with her back problem to travel comfortably.

    If necessary I will build my own controller to provide a softer, albeit probably with a less refined ride. However from all reports, both written and verbal, the ride is superb perhaps only marred by the standard low profile tyres if fitted with 20" rims, for which there are alternate solutions including 18" rims if sufficiently determined. That the L322 suspension has more travel than the D3/D4 suspension means that there is greater flexibility in raising the suspension if that helps. After-all, Llams plugs straight into these vehicles and custom calibrations are easily accommodated.

    Anyway the D4 has done 150K so a good time to wind the clock back and upgrade to the next level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graeme View Post
    I've just learnt that the 4.4 TDV8 has a primary turbo on the RHS and a secondary on the LHS. For slower, low power off-road use where the majority of air would be via the RHS air-cleaner for the primary turbo a snorkel on the RHS only might be a worthwhile option to reduce dust intake.
    I know with Off road vans, the dust ingress issue happens at speed, not at slow speeds. Cruising at speed on a dusty dirt road is when the filter is more likely to get covered IMO ... I am not sure that a snorkel would actually get lest dust than the normal intake in that scenario ?? I know the claims are they get lest dust, but I do wonder if such claims are valid. Once snorkels had a cyclonic dust isolator on the top of the snorkel. Such devices would work very well in preventing dust getting to the filter. But they don't seem very popular these days in 200 / 100 / Prado / Discos etc.

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    I fitted a snorkel to my D4 after experiencing dirty filters after 10K kms with my normal use which includes gravel roads but not generally following other vehicles on dusty roads. The air intake above and behind the front wheel is in the same approximate position as the L322 so I suspect the L322 will also get filters dirty quickly. However as the secondary turbo on my 3.0 D4 doesn't get much use, I suspect the 4.4's will get even less use hence the benefit from just a RH snorkel. In the UK the secondary's filter is usually quite clean even though the primary's gets quite dirty. I wont be in a rush to fit a snorkel though.

    I have a self-cleaning extractor hat on the D4 from the V8 Toyo for outback travel. The induction noise is too excessive to warrant fitment for normal use.
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    VK2HFG and APRS W1 digi, RTK base station using LoRa

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    Off topic I know (snorkels to shocks) - Graeme do you know if you can actually get non-CVD spare shocks for the L322? If so, where and how much, any idea? And do you know if they are side-specific like the LR ones?

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    For MY10 where CVD were an option on some vehicles the non-active damping rear shocks for the 3.6 are part# RPD500760 and they are not handed. The 5.0 uses a different part# so must have different valving.

    Unplugging a CVD will disable active damping resulting in a harsh ride, as evidenced when the wiring on a front CVD fails. Obviously the CVD ecu monitors the shocks for continuity of the circuit so I will be experimenting to discover what high value resistor needs to be fitted to provide the necessary feedback for a disconnected plug - high value to consume very little current and therefore not get hot. A resistor the same resistance of the shock's solenoid will obviously work but a far higher resistance one will not get hot. I suspect a 10K will work - the IC standard pull-up / pull-down resistor value.

    I may acquire a set of cheaper Bilstein rear shocks that fit all L322s to carry 1 or possibly both as spares on rugged trips plus 2 resistors to allow front CVD operation to continue, probably even permanently fitting the (rear) resistors via switches in the rear fuse panel area for ease of shock change-over if required. The Bilsteins may even be more suitable than genuine MY10 non-CVDs in conditions where CVDs could fail, but are reported to provide a harsher ride than genuine for normal use. The resistors could be permanently wired and connected but a failed electrical circuit to the shock or a failed solenoid coil in the shock would then never be detected by the CVD ecu.

    The ride from fitting non CVD rear shocks without using resistors and therefore front CVDs are disabled causing harsher front shocks may be acceptable anyway - probably much better than a pogo-stick rear end. I'm assuming that all CVD operation is disabled if 1 shock's circuit fails but that my not be the case - needs to be checked by road testing with 1 shock unplugged - eg unplug 1 front and test if the rear ride is now harsh.

    Bilstein approx 115 GBP each + frt, genuine approx 207 GBP each + frt

    Edit: RPD500760 is applicable to all L322
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    VK2HFG and APRS W1 digi, RTK base station using LoRa

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