Thread: Disappointed in the D5 / waiting for the Defender

To me the triton is the weakest contender in the mainstream dual cab wars. Dont forget about the chintzy interior (and exterior).

A relative was very disappointed in his Triton and got rid of it.

The electronics in the D5 don't worry me. I lean towards the argument that electronics may be more reliable than mechanical systems, which I'm sure many here would reject, but I'm not sure how it could be proven.

I actually don't mind Triton and the interior isn't a deal breaker. Better than a Collie...

It represents the best value. I had the previous model in the pack with me at Cape York and it did well with recognised limitations. The new one is stronger in the chassis thankfully and stock rear diff lock on Exceed is nice but from memory (and unlike the Ranger) locking the rear diff removed front axle ETC ability which is poor design.

They are pretty honest. Not huge like others but big enough and if you drill down it's payload, tow load and ball weight are surprising compared to the the big boy toy utes like Ford and Holden. I'm being a bit derisive about Collie and Ranger because outwardly they are trying to all be F Trucks...but they are not. Again Triton goes the other way and the styling is almost feminine by comparison and I don't mind it now. Especially when bar work etc is done.


Cheers

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

A relative was very disappointed in his Triton and got rid of it.

The electronics in the D5 don't worry me. I lean towards the argument that electronics may be more reliable than mechanical systems, which I'm sure many here would reject, but I'm not sure how it could be proven.

I guess if you are happy enough with a triton and got it for $30k you are $10k ahead of the competition(?).

On the electronics side of things, there are situations where electronics replace mechanical things, like a solenoid actuated transfer case versus mechanical levers, in which case they are competitors for reliability, and then there are situations where things that were previously more basic have been made more complex, like a non locking fuel tank flap versus one with a solenoid lock.

I reckon most times a mechanical lever transfer case has issues it is solvable, remove any dirt buildup, lubricate or free any seized components or adjust things. Its not likely to be a show stopper. Versus electronic, which if it develops a fault could easily be more challenging to fix. Maybe a switch just needs cleaning, but maybe its harder to work out exactly what is wrong and how to deal with a very specific electronic gizmo that stopped working?

As for fuel flaps, while i havent ever parked overnight at innaminka, i have never had fuel stolen. Whereas after only two years (and a fair bit of dust?) a solenoid flap lock stopped working properly making it seem impossible to open. You very quickly get very annoyed and want to reach for a crowbar. Its a new problem most dont need to have, and involves time and organising to get replaced even when under warranty, which if you costed would easily be a tank or more of (not) stolen fuel.

What are the service intervals of the new D5 engines?
Do they all use cam belts or chains?
How easy will they be to service at home?
I presume the auto is "sealed for life" - hopefully they have made the auto strong enough for the rated 600nm of the 3lTd6

The roof rails are rated to 80kg - which I think is the same for the previous Discos.

At least the D5 should fit into ALL underground carparks which I could not say about my D2.

When you open the bonnett, there will be a full plastic cover, upon which will be the sign, "Staff Only".

We seem to hardly hear about the below. Might still be a bit heavy even if it could be de-armoured (?)....
Hawkei - Wikipedia

Had my first look at the D5 today. Salesman advised no 18 inch tyre but 19inch are "bush ready".He advised the defender would be in 2019.

Anyway looks good but too refined and too expensive for me to use as an off road tourer. Would buy a RRS instead as its a bit smaller and same level of fancyness

Originally Posted by rammypluge

When you open the bonnett, there will be a full plastic cover, upon which will be the sign, "Staff Only".

We seem to hardly hear about the below. Might still be a bit heavy even if it could be de-armoured (?)....
Hawkei - Wikipedia

I'd rather have an H1