Thread: Disappointed in the D5 / waiting for the Defender

A Mini Moke's daddy.

Mini Mokes had some style, but not sure about a 100yr warranty being suitable. Hadnt seen one for a while, then saw this one...

Originally Posted by rammypluge

I guess if you are happy enough with a triton and got it for $30k you are $10k ahead of the competition(?).

On the electronics side of things, there are situations where electronics replace mechanical things, like a solenoid actuated transfer case versus mechanical levers, in which case they are competitors for reliability, and then there are situations where things that were previously more basic have been made more complex, like a non locking fuel tank flap versus one with a solenoid lock.

I reckon most times a mechanical lever transfer case has issues it is solvable, remove any dirt buildup, lubricate or free any seized components or adjust things. Its not likely to be a show stopper. Versus electronic, which if it develops a fault could easily be more challenging to fix. Maybe a switch just needs cleaning, but maybe its harder to work out exactly what is wrong and how to deal with a very specific electronic gizmo that stopped working?

As for fuel flaps, while i havent ever parked overnight at innaminka, i have never had fuel stolen. Whereas after only two years (and a fair bit of dust?) a solenoid flap lock stopped working properly making it seem impossible to open. You very quickly get very annoyed and want to reach for a crowbar. Its a new problem most dont need to have, and involves time and organising to get replaced even when under warranty, which if you costed would easily be a tank or more of (not) stolen fuel.

I suppose an air locker versus an e-locker is another example. E-locker has less parts to fail.

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

I suppose an air locker versus an e-locker is another example. E-locker has less parts to fail.

I wonder what the number of parts to fail between the two actually is??

Yes, it would be interesting to know. I've certainly heard plenty of failed air locker stories, often compressors or air hoses, but no e-locker fails, which doesn't actually prove anything.

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Yes, it would be interesting to know. I've certainly heard plenty of failed air locker stories, often compressors or air hoses, but no e-locker fails, which doesn't actually prove anything.

I have heard of e-locker failures, the magnet? failed im them. One guy had gone through 3 lockers in the front of his jeep in 4 years!!! Then went for an arb

I have seen a couple of large fb polls and e-lockers utterly creamed air lockers. It seems close to 100% for e-lockers these days.

An interesting thing is, my impression is that trucks have used air pressure to lock their diffs for yonks, and the reliability seems very good.

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Yes, it would be interesting to know. I've certainly heard plenty of failed air locker stories, often compressors or air hoses, but no e-locker fails, which doesn't actually prove anything.

Considering we are in a D5 thread which has a compressor standard....

The only failure I had with twin ARB lockers was soon after I purchase, damaged a hose going to front locker....re-routed it and never had in issue in 10 years

I haven't decided which locker I will install in current defer.