Thread: Disappointed in the D5 / waiting for the Defender

Vern the trouble with videos (or for that matter anecdotes of people saying they did the OTT no worries) is that the OTT changes season to season and in peak times even day to day. I am able to compare very well because my group actually comprised the vehicles I mentioned. So no assumption, no speculation, just hard facts on a straight comparison. Again, things might have been different with a elocker and muddies (but even then clearance would be an issue...). Cheers
Ps. No differences in line with my little group because the areas in question had high sides and deep ruts...
PPS there were hard sections for sure. If a guy with 33's and 4 inch lift and twin locked Deefer and plenty of experience said to me he struggled on part of the OTT then chances are in the bits he struggled in I may well have required winching (as the state of the track was THEN). I wouldn't assume I could have done it merely because i did the same spot without recovery a month before...

Yes, but they still did it.
I just like how everyone is **** canning a car they have never driven, or especially taken off road! ( not having a dig at you)
I would like to see someone prove everyone wrong, i would, but its out of my price range to do so
I remember when the d3 came out, and everyone canned that too, bloody independent suspension, it will be useless! Well it seems its not

To me a off road vehicle needs to have the abiltiy to be able to bolt protection to it to stop panel damage. Thats a proper off road vehicle!
If your argument is that its simply capable then i dont know as i haven't driven it. However for me to tackle a track i want the peace of mind that body protection offers, one less thing to worry about.
The one i had next to me looked like a whale. Where you'd bolt any protection is beyond me. The door shape would hit banks easily and the arse looks like kim kardashians....its bloody huge.
The wheel size is a joke, i dont care what crap people are going to spin but they aren't off road friendly.
I literally got back from doing some tracks today around the Turon river between sunny corner and capertee. Some of the tracks i did today that thing would not be able to do without suffering some sort of damage. My twin locked, 33 inch tyre and complete body protection defender ate it up for breakfast, couple of scratches on the rock sliders but thats it. Those scratches would have been significant damage on a d5.

You can tart and talk up a d5 all you like, roll it in glitter if you must but it isnt a serious off road vehicle. Yes i havent driven it, im happy to go the power lines track in lithgow and test it against my defender if anyone is keen? Then maybe we can put this to bed.

The d5 is aimed at a new market, one with people who have lots on money and want a green oval badge sitting on there drive way

I understand what you are saying Vern but how have they improved it off road? They communicate with other D5's and have improved programming for traction control...not really. 22's...no. I'm sorry mate but they are really going the wrong way.

Ch

Looks capable to me!!

It's the red paint that will make all the difference

The new Disco will kill it off road and like all Discos before it, there will be some early adopters with the money and the desire to give it a go. Looks fine to me. The D3/4 is no super model but it has it's charms and this new one is no different. Like many new cars, some will look at it now and think it looks horrible, then two years from now they'll buy one thinking it's a bit of a looker.

Accessories will be developed in due course, like they always are.

I'd have one in a heartbeat and happily punt it off road. New Defender will probably suit me better though...I'm guessing.

Originally Posted by steane

The new Disco will kill it off road and like all Discos before it, there will be some early adopters with the money and the desire to give it a go. Looks fine to me. The D3/4 is no super model but it has it's charms and this new one is no different. Like many new cars, some will look at it now and think it looks horrible, then two years from now they'll buy one thinking it's a bit of a looker.

Accessories will be developed in due course, like they always are.

I'd have one in a heartbeat and happily punt it off road. New Defender will probably suit me better though...I'm guessing.

Exactly. It seems no one wants to give it a chance! Just like every disco before it.
And as you said, the body armour will come in time, its only been out 5 minutes!
Or we could just assume it will be a pos and cry about it. Its a disco after all, not a defender or a 70 series!