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    Quote Originally Posted by ozscott View Post
    255/60/20 is the same 6inch sidewall that I quoted above for the D3 stock 18inch tyre. Legal max increase is 265/65/20 which is 6.78.

    The one good thing of having a 20 inch at the same tyre specs of an 18inch is better tyre approach angle especially valuable on sand.

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    Cheers, wouldn't 275/65/20 be max legal @ 2inches bigger 34inch without engineering?

    2inch lift, 2 inch tyres 75mm increase

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    If it needs lifting straight from the factory, it’s just another SUV.
    ...if it has air springs why would it need a lift anyway?

    If it comes with 20” rims and needs a lift it’s not designed for the bush.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeros View Post
    If it needs lifting straight from the factory, it’s just another SUV.
    ...if it has air springs why would it need a lift anyway?

    If it comes with 20” rims and needs a lift it’s not designed for the bush.
    No one said it needs a lift, it all good, relax big fella Won’t be retro...

    It has been shown many times multiple rims, brakes and tyres are on pilots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackrangie View Post
    Cheers, wouldn't 275/65/20 be max legal @ 2inches bigger 34inch without engineering?

    2inch lift, 2 inch tyres 75mm increase
    Mate you might get away with it. Especially if you fitted tyres that were definitely no more that a total diameter increase of 50mm over stock. Strictly speaking the nominal increase of 275/65/20 over stock is slightly over 50mm therefore not legal but it is very close...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozscott View Post
    Mate you might get away with it. Especially if you fitted tyres that were definitely no more that a total diameter increase of 50mm over stock. Strictly speaking the nominal increase of 275/65/20 over stock is slightly over 50mm therefore not legal but it is very close...

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    Here what your saying, however its 4mm, not sure if they even usually look at the size increase down to 0.00 I certainly haven't heard of it before, its usually just to the inches, but certainly something to consider, or run past your engineer, insurer etc.Won’t be retro...

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    In QLD it's specifically mm (ie 50mm increase max). I thought that was an Oz wide thing.

    Blackrangie I use imperial most of the time but you know Australia is metric hey? Won’t be retro...

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    The VSB’s are being adopted Australia wide slowly but surely, so although it still differs from State to State, at some point they’ll come into line with each other on this (and probably nothing else). I know Victoria refers to the relevant VSB’s now for all vehicle modifications and I’m pretty sure Queensland does too.

    VSB14 - https://infrastructure.gov.au/vehicl...ov_2015_v4.pdf

    4.2.4 Overall Nominal Diameter
    The overall diameter of any tyre fitted to a passenger car or passenger car derivative must not be more than 15mm larger or 26mm smaller than that of any tyre designated by the vehicle manufacturer for that model.
    The overall diameter of any tyre fitted to:
     4WD passenger vehicles specifically designed for off-road use (typically MC ADR category). All wheel drive (AWD) vehicles including those AWD vehicles that may be certified as MC ADR category, (also commonly known as soft roaders) are not included in this category;
     4WD goods vehicles and their 2WD equivalents if the chassis and running gear are essentially the same as the 4WD version (N ADR category); or
     any medium weight goods vehicle (NA2, NB ADR category).
    Must not be more than 50mm larger or 26mm smaller than that of any tyre designated by the
    vehicle manufacturer for that vehicle.”

    And note that a total of 50mm is allowed overall, not 75 under this VSB so if your State recognises this VSB, 2” bigger tyres is it, or 1” tyres, 1” lift, etc.

    4.11 LOWERINGORRAISINGVEHICLES
    Section LS Tyres, Rims, Suspension and Steering
    None of the codes in VSB 14 allow for the raising of any vehicle where the wheel track has also been reduced. These vehicles are subject to individual approval on a case-by-case basis.
    Raising the height of the vehicle may be performed without certification providing the overall increase in vehicle height is not more than 50mm. This may be achieved as a single modification such as the installation of a 50mm lift kit, or by a combination of smaller lifts as described below:
     the fitting of body blocks or lift kits (50mm maximum if no other modifications resulting in a change of vehicle height are performed);
     suspension modification, (50mm maximum if no other modifications resulting in a change of vehicle height are performed);
     changes to tyre size (maximum change in tyre size diameter of 50mm); or
     a combination of the above that results in a change of vehicle height not exceeding
    50mm.”

    So 50mm (2”) max I would work on overall. I’ve been reading through all the VSB’s recently as I’m about to go through Engineering on my 101 for several items and it’s a bloody slog working through everything I can tell you.
    If you need to contact me please email homestarrunnerau@gmail.com - thanks - Gav.

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    QLD changed late last year to apparently bring it into line with other states (ie higher lifts and lifts for ESC equipped vehicles). This is from the Qld Dept Transport web site

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    ...but not ESC equipped vehicles


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    Quote Originally Posted by ozscott View Post
    In QLD it's specifically mm (ie 50mm increase max). I thought that was an Oz wide thing.

    Blackrangie I use imperial most of the time but you know Australia is metric hey? Won’t be retro...
    Yeah spoke to engineer they go off what the specific tyre size is listed as in the tyre and rim manual, this sizes we are talking about are not listed. Also some manufacturers even quote different rolling diameters for their products to the manuals.
    There is also allowances for tread wear.
    4mm would be unreasonable to pick up, however its a known grey area.

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