Won’t be retro...

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Originally Posted by roverrescue

The fact a six is even a consideration just shows how far the LR2020 has fallen
The defender always had a small Diesel engine as it WAS A Commercial spec vehicle.
For tax reasons this equaled a small 4 pot

Now this hairdressers SUV may as well have a Bugatti W16
It ain’t no commercial vehicle!

;)

S

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The target market (if hilux et al is the target market) have 4, 5 & 6 cylinder diesels. They have the motor designed anyway - as if they wouldn't put it in!

Oh and the defender had a 5 cylinder in it for a few years too ;)

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Originally Posted by Homestar

More ****ty parking from the testing teams. Maybe no reverse camera? 😆😆😆

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Wot you sayin' then Willis, they wouldn't have hit the fence? Maybe Cammo just doesn't end with the cars.[bigsmile1]

My understanding was it was a Euro/UK tax concession on low capacity engines for commercial vehicles?

But yeah if it fits jam it in!

I’m not sure if the irony is lost on anyone (I doubt it)
But ALL the fanbois (on this thread) of this jigger are Rangiephiles and Discophiles
Which honestly is fine by me but hilarious none the less.

calling this thing a defender which is in no way agricultural or commercial or IMHO real is a farce! I guess though some would say a D5 is a commercial vehicle because some euro police force bought a few?

Now don’t get me wrong, heck one day I might even buy one - but less than 0% of me will think it was a defender. This whole shizzle is about nomenclature.

S

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Originally Posted by DiscoClax

I am in almost exactly the same boat as Garry, except I've had my L320 for less time and am not quite ready to upgrade. I am eyeing off this new Defender as a potential addition at some time. The rest of the range doesn't fit my brief (capability plus comfort plus decent tyres plus a bit of boxiness), but I think this one could. No V8 will be a bitter pill to swallow, but a stonking blown straight six may be a reasonable consolation in this day and age. They can keep the threes and fours for other vehicles in their range. Needs to have six pots or more to get that refined smoothness expected in a modern (luxury) offering. I drive highly boosted fours daily and getting back into the TDV8 is a revelation each time. So smooth. I know the V6 is similar in that regard. Four pots being stuffed with 54psi of boost give great numbers, but lack refinement. Bring on the Ingenium six... please.

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I'm with you on the V8, maybe SVX will do one, but yeah the turbo, charged 6 will be my pick until an 8 is avail.

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Originally Posted by roverrescue

The fact a six is even a consideration just shows how far the LR2020 has fallen
The defender always had a small Diesel engine as it WAS A Commercial spec vehicle.
For tax reasons this equaled a small 4 pot

Now this hairdressers SUV may as well have a Bugatti W16
It ain’t no commercial vehicle!

;)

S

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They apparently will have 3cyl hybrid, 4cyl hybrid, straight 6 etc..range of engines.

Modern vehicles come with engines to suit everyone's needs.

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Originally Posted by ozscott

Think BMW straight 6's from the early 1990's...if they can so a turbine smooth motor like that with a supercharger (fat chance) or turbo sweet as.

Cheers

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Ingenium six is supercharged AND turbocharged :) Debuting in the Rangie Sport (I think?) Before appearing in many other JLR vehicles. I'm hoping this engine gets into the Defo somewhere somehow.

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Originally Posted by DiscoClax

Ingenium six is supercharged AND turbocharged :) Debuting in the Rangie Sport (I think?) Before appearing in many other JLR vehicles. I'm hoping this engine gets into the Defo somewhere somehow.

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It was heard on nurburgring vids.
Guys in states are saying diesel and petrol ingenium engines.

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Originally Posted by blackrangie

It was heard on nurburgring vids.
Guys in states are saying diesel and petrol ingenium engines.

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Something for everyone :)

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Originally Posted by blackrangie

Parks are 2.4m in uk, looks like 35cm on side of left one.

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So, probably roughly 2m wide - so, D4 sized.

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Originally Posted by Arapiles

So, probably roughly 2m wide - so, D4 sized.

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And these:

Current Defender is 1791 mm
LC200 is 1970 mm
New defender is 2005 mm?
D5 is 1983mm
Gwagon is 1930mm