Thread: Won’t be retro...

Originally Posted by Arapiles

Yes, articles like that are why I subscribe to Outside.

Never heard of them before this, what are they about?

Originally Posted by Homestar

It won’t be long before they complete locking down both service histories and diagnostics - there are quite a few OEM’s heading this way. Once the service history in the vehicles ECU an Indy can’t service it and record the service so your warranty will be void (That’s what they’ll want you to believe and most will although in Australia consumer law does protect from this in some way shape or form) - it’s already like this on some higher end euro cars. It’s what the right of repair legislation is trying to overturn in the USA. Legislation and legal action will stop this at some point but they’ll get their pound of flesh from owners in the meantime.

Win for local mechanics with plan to make world'''s car makers share high tech data

Originally Posted by blackrangie

Never heard of them before this, what are they about?

They're a very influential US outdoor magazine, in content and layout - there have been a couple of local mags that were straight copies. They gave a start to, or published regularly, writers like Tim Cahill and Jon Krakauer. A couple of their more famous articles morphed into books and films like The Perfect Storm (Sebastian Junger) or Into Thin Air (Jon Krakauer).

Originally Posted by Arapiles

What if, like with the D4 in the UK, there actually is a commercial model?

I'm also not 100% convinced that all Defenders were hardcore working vehicles - I saw one today with a lot of leather and carpet .... ergonomics were still *&**^ though.

Agreed

And to add to that

D5 also has a commercial version.(1st 2 photos)

New defender from what had been seen shows checker plate bonnet sides, 1 peice real snorkel, winch, sliders, exoedition rack, 3 front seats, rubber floors, simple dash, metal bash plate at front, big bash plate under, big real recovery points all around. It has the potential to be very rugged, durable and utilitarian or luxury.

Slightly rounder panels for efficiency and some up to date reliable tech doesn't exclude something from being utilitarian (practical)

Imo the new defender will be in many ways more practical then the old and to be fair the old will be more practical in some ways than the new.

I would say the new defender will be as practical(utilitarian) as possible for the worldwide market.

In time we will see various body styles like the current one and they will be used in many practical environments both privately and commercially not dissimilar to what has already been proven at Borana with Tusk, I look forward to towing or full payload with car sitting dead level and susp and handling still working as it should.

This is what gives tech in LR a bad name. Freeze vid at 6 mins YouTube

I would like to think in the new Defender this sort of course would not be an issue and check engine and other warning lights would remain off even when driven hard. If LR can achieve that sort of build then they will likely have my money and a lot of other people's.

Cheers

I'm a Defender owner who previously had a Disco and I'm interested in the new Defender.

My wife's Thermomix connects to our home Wi-Fi and does updates, so I can't see why a Defender couldn't be logged in, like by Bluetooth with phones, and do the same.

Most EVs will recharge at home, but a highway network is needed for travellers. It will become a marketing ploy to attract travellers to stop and eat while they recharge. For example, there is an EV recharging point in Byron Bay where travellers from Brisbane take their EVs to recharge while they walk around the corner to the shops.

Originally Posted by rick130

True, there are a lot of Tdci's used by the latte set!

But they were designed to work. My old girl hauled a 400l water tank from new as a bush fire fighting vehicle, then when off lease I used it for farm and trade work.
There's still a 130 Tdci crew cab in local council use with a 3-400l tank on it and two reels off the back for weed spraying (how, without air bags I'll never know?)

I highly doubt we'll see a new 'Defender' setup like that!

They are definitely the go to vehicle in East Africa for the locals.

Any LR product older than one with a TDi isn't wanted.

Even many Govt departments still run the older models.

They hate complication and electronics.

Anything older than a TDi LR,has the big T badge on the front,they still get the 6 cyl 1HZ new.

But they do say,the old LR,with long travel coils,still has the edge on the latest Tojo in the real rough stuff,and is more comfortable.

Originally Posted by blackrangie

Win for local mechanics with plan to make world'''s car makers share high tech data

Thanks for that - but a long way to go as this is a discussion paper. Won’t and can’t discuss here what could happen from there.