Won’t be retro...

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Originally Posted by blackrangie

I can't see 1.3T being an issue with the 130, especially if they do a Ute. The air will keep it level and stable.

Even the D5 is up to 950kg payload + fuel (5seat) 900kg + fuel (7seat) from memory.

Considering the above what payload are people tipping for the 110?

Im going to say 1T, but if it matches the disco its more than enough for me, we make do with 600 in the RRC after all the mods and a GVM upgrade.

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It's the chassis and driveline strength, (and brakes, which will be more than adequate I'm sure) not the spring rate that determines load capability ;)

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Originally Posted by blackrangie

Lucky8 have 33s/18s on the D5 I cant see 34s on 18s being an issue on the new defender, maybe a small electronic lift if anything.

I imagine most people will use rods or electronic calibration to lift an inch or more.

Having said that a J.Auston Fab 2inch subframe lift would be legal would keep susp stock give plenty of room for 34s.(or 35s)

2 inch lift and 34s = Total lift 75mm which is under the engineering limithttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...3d6261d11e.jpg

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This is pretty unimpressive wheel travel...stiff as a board. I really hope Defender is more impressive.

Cheers

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Originally Posted by ozscott

BR possible but big cost. If I can't run 33's and hopefully 34's stock with 18's I will look elsewhere I think. Some people might mod but in Aus there are VERY few modded D4 and 5 where big tyres are used. I think most people like going max legal without engineering and having to muck around with insurers on the topic.

I'm keen but only if it all stacks up. If not I will probably go like so many do and build a canopy rear on a Ford Ranger Wildtrack and be like every other bugger for my next tourer. Probably save a fair whack of coin too.

Cheers

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Yeah again if the D5 is running 33's on 18s and i believe the stockies are 31s

There should be no problems running 33s or 34s on 18s on the new defender..i would say 33s no lift, 34s electronic or rod lift, but who knows.

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Originally Posted by rick130

It's the chassis and driveline strength, (and brakes, which will be more than adequate I'm sure) not the spring rate that determines load capability ;)

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Yep agreed Rick. If they engineer it right it can be stronger in every way than Defender 1 but it's an ask...light weight mostly alloy vehicle...

Cheers

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Originally Posted by rick130

It's the chassis and driveline strength, (and brakes, which will be more than adequate I'm sure) not the spring rate that determines load capability ;)

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Agreed to a degree however the air springs help keep the load level and stop it sitting on bumpstops plus allow it to corner and drive safer etc. You can have all the chassis strength and brakes in the world but if your sitting on your bump stops or pointing at the sky or have springs upgraded to be soo hard when unloaded its unbearable, its pointless.

In your opinion if you set a 2019 D5 5 seater with 18s and 33s with zero ks out across the desert with 1T payload including fuel and a 110, 2016 with zero ks with 1T including fuel and said keep driving until something breaks, which would last the longest and why?

Nice pic shows side profile of 90 pretty well, except for the hipline mod under the camo.
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Also saw this watching goodwood, rewinding back through the live stream from today, Looking like proper checker plate to me from above, tusk shot backs that up.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...4bb1d05b1e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...1d44a06528.jpg

Surely that rippled plate will be an option

There is a number of threads on paint protection / stick on magnets etc in the new discovery sections at the moment who are the target audience for this thing.

Surely people that care that much about showroom paint condition don’t want ripple pattern body panels? They could never polish it?

I like your desert challenge
It’s kinda like John Haines old challenge to any aluminium boat maker in the 90s. I believe he said
“You bring your best tin boat, then choose any Hull I have built ever. I’ll give it a once over for safety then we will head towards NewZealand and keep going till your boat sinks!!!!”

The reality with your challenge is on pure long term toughness you’d have to drive along way - I think that crossing desert country especially thick mulga desert
tyres would be the rate limiting factor. How tough a tyre can you get in 285/70R18 or whatever you propose the D5 wears?

I’m sure the D5 would succeed admirably if it was a scooch across the French Line but that doesn’t really define a level of toughness because pretty much any SUV straight out of the showroom could also do it?

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Originally Posted by roverrescue

Surely that rippled plate will be an option

There is a number of threads on paint protection / stick on magnets etc in the new discovery sections at the moment who are the target audience for this thing.

Surely people that care that much about showroom paint condition don’t want ripple pattern body panels? They could never polish it?

I like your desert challenge
It’s kinda like John Haines old challenge to any aluminium boat maker in the 90s. I believe he said
“You bring your best tin boat, then choose any Hull I have built ever. I’ll give it a once over for safety then we will head towards NewZealand and keep going till your boat sinks!!!!”

The reality with your challenge is on pure long term toughness you’d have to drive along way - I think that crossing desert country especially thick mulga desert
tyres would be the rate limiting factor. How tough a tyre can you get in 285/70R18 or whatever you propose the D5 wears?

I’m sure the D5 would succeed admirably if it was a scooch across the French Line but that doesn’t really define a level of toughness because pretty much any SUV straight out of the showroom could also do it?

S

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You could be right, Well the checker plate has been seen on all the non cladded bonnets from memory but you could be right, seeming as though the Goodwood hill 90 was no doubt urban with its wheels it could very well be across the board.

The plate on the bonnet mustn't be functional ...The plate needs to be top of front guards to be able to be stood on unless the bonnet is bloody strong.

Land Rover have a habit of having the best engineering with, well, let's just say less than the best execution at times. I am hopeful that this vehicle will be solid and reliably built in a way which the other vehicles in its pack can lean on for marketing purposes. It wouldn't be hard to make it more reliable for offroading than the way in which the last of the Defenders left the factory (ie without owners fixing the issues). I reckon the build quality will be there. It's tyres and the drive away prices that have me concerned. We will see soon enough.

Cheers

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Originally Posted by ozscott

The plate on the bonnet mustn't be functional ...The plate needs to be top of front guards to be able to be stood on unless the bonnet is bloody strong.

Land Rover have a habit of having the best engineering with, well, let's just say less than the best execution at times. I am hopeful that this vehicle will be solid and reliably built in a way which the other vehicles in its pack can lean on for marketing purposes. It wouldn't be hard to make it more reliable for offroading than the way in which the last of the Defenders left the factory (ie without owners fixing the issues). I reckon the build quality will be there. It's tyres and the drive away prices that have me concerned. We will see soon enough.

Cheers

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Yeah agree if real the bonnet has to be strong, its not that difficult from an engineering point of view, current defender people walk over bulge section. Maybe a little harder if it is air labyrinthed like the D5,RRS and vogue. The tube bar would make a good ladder to it.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...e4acb92181.jpg