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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    I'm impressed with the new Defender and I'm sure it's an excellent vehicle, but it's out of my price range, having to spend at least $90,000 to get a good spec.
    For comparison, an Isuzu MU-X in top spec form is about $50,000, depending on deals. It's a durable 7-seat wagon, built tough, has a high-torque, truck-based engine, six-speed auto, rear coils and front independent suspension, protection, 16 inch wheels and can tow 3.0 tonnes. All for about $50k.
    No doubt the new Defender is a better vehicle in many ways, but I can't see an extra $40-50k in value.
    I won't be buying any new vehicle, being now a retired poor old fart, but if I was trading our 2009 110 wagon, I would be looking at either a new MU-X or a used Discovery 4 in that price range.
    The new Defender just wouldn't figure in my calculations.

    Isuzu MU-X Price & Specs: Review, Specification, Price | CarAdvice
    Fair call The New Defender

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    Did Land Rover make the New Defender right?

    The old defender sold 5k to the public on average per year in its last few years, compared to the worldwide market and numbers they will no doubt sell in, its a drop in the ocean.

    All things considered, LR did what needed to be done to the defender to keep it viable, imo anyone that says otherwise may not be considering ALL the facts rationally.

    There are some that say LR should have kept the old def, its too lux, too tech or shouldve kept the squared shape or coils or solid axles etc etc. Others are happy with the new one.

    Please without this turning into another slinging match, respectfully what would you have done the same or explain what you would have done differently when redesigning the defender whilst taking into account it has to be sold in all markets(aim for 150-200k per year), with current and future emissions restrictions in mind, current and future safety (both occupant and pedestrian) in mind, keeping iconic features whilst being modern, being utilitarian, tough, durable, capable and reliable whilst still being comfortable.

    So if you were LR, what would you have done the same or differently and why, but please only post after considering all the factors involved (the above is not all but a small portion) just like LR would have and showing the rationale behind what you would do differently if anything.

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    upload didn't work.
    Last edited by ChookD2; 21st November 2019 at 11:27 PM. Reason: upload didn't work.
    There is no eraser on the pencil of life.

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    Here we go again......Groundhog day.

    They have made their decision based on the current market and where they are taking the brand. What on earth is the point of this thread ?

    Colin
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    Groan..... this has been done to death

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    Can someone please make it stop...???

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    Actually, I think Pajero (not the Sport) are also good value and well-proven.

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    This subject has created so much hate on this website. Sometimes I wish LR hadn't bothered. Please just stop rehashing the same arguments...

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    Could be time for the mods to get this under control please. There seems to be so many threads on the new Defender with endless discussions that just seem to get people annoyed. I know I don’t have to read them but it’s getting out of hand

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