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  1. 22nd October 2019, 09:34 PM #731
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarry View Post
    No,we will have to agree to disagree

    Range is a huge variable,with these types of vehicles,particularly doing what they are designed to do,off roading and towing,often fully loaded,and at other times running unloaded,around town,or whatever.

    But I am sure many would agree for general touring,off roading,towing,something like a usable of 130 litres would be fine,at least,many would like 180.

    Anyway,each to their own,but for what we do a larger tank(100 to 130litres as an example)would be very convenient,and as I have said before it’s not just point to point travel.

    In fact I noticed a huge difference going from the D2 that I could squeeze 95 litres into,to the D4,which has a usable of around 76.Fuel usage for the two vehicles is similar.

    With the new Defender I recon the aftermarket guys will be onto this issue pretty quickly and have aftermarket tanks available.Hopefully it’s not to difficult to do.
    Depends what engine you have and its economy figures
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  2. 22nd October 2019, 09:36 PM #732
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrustyNoodle View Post
    Excellent! This is the last piece of the puzzle I needed to be able to work out the full drive away RRP for any specification.

    This puts a 110 SE P400 with no options what so ever at $115,510 drive away (+0/-100 due to rego/CTP fluctuations).
    And a 110 HSE P400 again with no options at $125,819 drive away (+0/-100)

    It will be fairly difficult squeezing too much of a discount out of the stealer for such a new release but under the right conditions I think you should be able to negotiate a 10% to 15% discount, that would put the SE above at ~$102,000 and the HSE at ~$111,700 for a 10% discount - depending on where you apply the discount.

    Of course if you were interested in a moderately spec'd HSE (the only variant with Matrix LED's) including the rear locker, tow pack, HUD and privacy glass, you'd be up for $130,551 RRP drive away - that is a lot of coin!
    A lot of coin compared to what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackrangie View Post
    A lot of coin compared to what?
    The previous model defender!
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  4. 22nd October 2019, 09:39 PM #734
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    To explain that a bit and to allow others to do the calcs themselves, the prices posted previously (below) are RRP including GST and LCT. The drive away price adds stealer delivery ($4,000 - yeah right!) rego etc. plus options and whatever extra LCT that adds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackrangie View Post
    A lot of coin compared to what?
    ... One's retirement investments!
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    Yup so the base model is $80K + ...so all the gumf about New Defender starting at $69,990 is just gumf.

    Compared to the many various other choices of 4x4 vehicles well under $80K, $80K is high.

    Compared to G Wagen, 70 Series Wagon, 200 Wagon, $80K is reasonable.

    $130K? Well if you can afford to pay cash, it doesn't matter what it's compared to. But for most Australians without a business tax deduction on a lease - compared to paying down your mortgage, not paying more interest, etc - $130K is a lot of money for a car, especially in the current fiscal climate; not to mention the climate climate whereby all vehicle manufacturers will be 100% focussed on EV's by 2025.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrustyNoodle View Post
    To explain that a bit and to allow others to do the calcs themselves, the prices posted previously (below) are RRP including GST and LCT. The drive away price adds stealer delivery ($4,000 - yeah right!) rego etc. plus options and whatever extra LCT that adds.

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    Rrp's are rrp's with every brand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackrangie View Post
    Rrp's are rrp's with every brand.
    Apologies... the emphasis should have been on "includes GST and LCT".
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackrangie View Post
    A lot of coin compared to what?
    That Defender HSE is $5k more than a D5 HSE (with SD6 donk). Will be an interesting dilemma for some, I imagine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackrangie View Post
    A lot of coin compared to what?
    Compared to the first house I brought for $122k
    I think the price will prove to be too high for significant sales - Just by being a Land Rover it will straight away have a limited appeal to the masses in Australia (IMHO), to then put a price that makes it comparable to a 200 series its not a combination for lots of sales. Just look at the price Nissan had to slash from the Y62 patrol to get sales - had the patrol had a diesel option at its launch then they probably would have sold well at the original prices, but with a petrol only its market appeal is limited. For me as much as I love the look of the 110 defender - its not a vehicle that will suit my needs (that need to be a comfortable 6 seater), I'd have to wait until the 130 version, or look at a Y62 or D5. But that's all if I win lotto ideas, in reality I'll be waiting until they are sub $30,000 on the second hand market before I would even consider looking at one
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