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23rd October 2019, 08:00 PM
Tombie

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Originally Posted by SpudHeadTed

Whilst this isn’t the place to get into a climate change debate, I don’t think all vehicle manufacturers would be moving towards EV’s by 2025 if climate change were not a real thing. And I would certainly not base my research on an Elders weather report.

I wont be buying a new Defender until there is an EV version.

Vehicle manufacturers are in sales...

They will make & sell whatever the market forces demand.

Whilst the hot topic is Climate Change and EVs they will make them.

Also, don’t forget government and other pressure to do so is extremely high at the moment.
23rd October 2019, 08:05 PM
blackrangie

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Originally Posted by 1nando

100% agree. A overland vehicle without decent fuel range is like a pub that only serves mid strength beer. No one wants mid strength beer[emoji848] ok maybe some people do but they're few and far between[emoji848][emoji12][emoji41]

new defender = approx 850km range, which is decent fuel range and 100km more than the previous 110 defender, which is to many, the holy grail of overlanding.

So fact wise i dont see the point you are trying to make, something about beer? [emoji6]
23rd October 2019, 08:11 PM
blackrangie

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Originally Posted by 16PMark

Been following this thread since it's inception, and it's becoming clear that those who have shelled out their hard earned on this new beast have been blinded, or maybe besotted, by the fact they have done so....

I'm not trying to imply that's a bad thing, if that's up your alley, totally get that, but for those that have done so, it's probably time to realise that the new deefer hasn't latched it's land rover tentacles on the 'purerists' yet.....??
(Is that how purerists is spelt?)

I hated the bloody thing at first, but it's now grown on me, and I quite like it. If I had the coin, I'd start sniffing....
However, I don't have that much coin to spare. So its still ye good ole' Td5 (yes, it's in a Disco 2a, not a Deefer[emoji56]), tech for me.

I remember when the D1 was first introduced. I remember going to look at one with the old man at ulr. I'd been brought up on series Landies and Classic R's, and so this new Discovery thing, was an absolute bloody hideous disgrace. The flippin tailgate didn't even open the right way!! WT??
I've now owned 3 of the buggers!!
Still got the original posters of when the first disco was released. [emoji1783]

Anyway....

Seems to be a little 'hate' goin' on..
People Gunna love, people Gunna hate...
Just sayin. (Me 2c worth)
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Yeah im not digging the hate either, if people love it be happy for them, if people dont like it, no worries. If you have a reason to not like it, for sure let us know with facts.
If you dont agree with someone, point it out kindly whilst respecting their opinions.

History seems to repeat itself over and over with new vehicles and some don't seem to learn.

What's interesting is a few photos (attached again) were posted above showing an impressivly utilitarian interior above and the only comment was, that's not a 80k vehicle interior rather used 20k??

If it keeps going like that i won't be posting anything more up, full stop.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...a6cdc8308f.jpg https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...2ff2040b32.jpg
23rd October 2019, 08:19 PM
CrustyNoodle

The way I read it, everyone loves every aspect of the new Defender - except the price. I think they are over priced by around 15% which is a good negotiation target with your stealer.
23rd October 2019, 08:24 PM
CrustyNoodle

Given they moved the D4 from a perfect overlander to the D5 - a RRS competitor,
And they've moved the Defer to effectively replace the D4,
I wonder if they have something on the drawing board to be the true replacement for the Defer - maybe a competitor for the Merc or VW et. al.
23rd October 2019, 08:34 PM
DiscoDB

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Originally Posted by CrustyNoodle

Given they moved the D4 from a perfect overlander to the D5 - a RRS competitor,
And they've moved the Defer to effectively replace the D4,
I wonder if they have something on the drawing board to be the true replacement for the Defer - maybe a competitor for the Merc or VW et. al.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...52452e1cc7.jpg

I post the above picture in jest, but in all seriousness a true defender replacement would have to come from Tata using LR running gear and hand me down technology.

I am sure Tata have bigger plans.
23rd October 2019, 08:44 PM
CrustyNoodle

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Originally Posted by DiscoDB

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...52452e1cc7.jpg

I post the above picture in jest, but in all seriousness a true defender replacement would have to come from Tata using LR running gear and hand me down technology.

I am sure Tata have bigger plans.

BINGO!
23rd October 2019, 09:28 PM
SpudHeadTed

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Originally Posted by Tombie

Vehicle manufacturers are in sales...

They will make & sell whatever the market forces demand.

Whilst the hot topic is Climate Change and EVs they will make them.

Also, don’t forget government and other pressure to do so is extremely high at the moment.

Correct. Which is why I’m waiting ...my ‘market force’ is pretty much all the influence I have. + my current diesel Defender will do me fine until then, no need to buy a high-tech dinosaur.
23rd October 2019, 09:32 PM
SpudHeadTed

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Originally Posted by blackrangie

What's interesting is a few photos (attached again) were posted above showing an impressivly utilitarian interior above and the only comment was, that's not a 80k vehicle interior rather used 20k??

If it keeps going like that i won't be posting anything more up, full stop.

Nothing personal BR. That’s just what I think about those photos. An impressively utilitarian interior should have an impressively utilitarian price tag IMO.

4 others have liked that post so far too. Discussion re the New Defender will have positive and negative viewpoints. It looks like a great vehicle overall apart from the price, the lack of a hybrid / EV and a few other aspects IMO.
24th October 2019, 06:33 AM
ozscott

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Originally Posted by blackrangie

Here we go "bare bones" defender price on the road.

Bare Bones in Australia is certainly not Bare Bones with things like keyless entry, air suspension, offriad tyres, tpms,semi powered front sests, cruise, 360 degree cameras etc.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...3f8288e85c.jpg

So if you want base model and leather on the road you are looking at what $83k or so at a guesstimate. Cheers

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