Reply With QuoteComparativa 4x4 ¡al límite!: Land Rover Defender vs Mercedes Clase G | Prueba off road | Diariomotor - YouTube
[Edit] Hint, the G-Wagen does most everything more easily
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Comparativa 4x4 ¡al límite!: Land Rover Defender vs Mercedes Clase G | Prueba off road | Diariomotor - YouTube
[Edit] Hint, the G-Wagen does most everything more easily
Last edited by rick130; 25th July 2020 at 09:29 AM.
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SubscriberNice Rick. The Defender is very impressive for an all round IS vehicle. Would have to be the best IS production car around. But it's not in the same class off-road as well set up live axle coiler with lockers. In this test if the Defender had the locking rear it would have helped but would still not have been quite what the Merc is. The tow test at the end was a bit of fun. Low down Torque and lockers won the day convincingly on that test. Setting aside reliability arguments Land Rover appear to have built the best allrounder 4wd vehicle. CheersOriginally Posted by rick130
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Guess it should given lockers.
What is the price difference?
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SubscriberI thought it can only be had with rear locker? On some of those steep parts the front locker is a boon. Cheers
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Ford really has tried to hit all the buttons☺
Price will be the major factor wrt sales...a reasonable price plus reliability will equal a winner worldwide. Jeep has to be very worried now...Jeep will have to lift their game significantly or quit!
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35" tyres standard....wonder how the cops will manage that one😁
But they are factory sir....no mate...you'll have to do a swerve and braking test...but...but..😣
Hopefully like light bars...eventually the cops will get over bigger wheels and tyres. It was a bit silly when they were fining for light bars when their own cars had them fitted as std🙄
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One of the things I dislike with the air suspension is the lack of droop travel when raised, but you'd need the travel of Trophy Truck to get around it.
The teeter tottering would annoy me.
It reminded me of a stock 130 without a load in the rear, lifting wheels and lurching when crossed up.
I love how the old Rangies without anti roll bars articulate, the chassis stays relatively level and wheels move up and down.
Jeep's CJ's prior to 1975, all the way back to the military MB would do the same, it just made for a comfortable, controllable off road experience.
I was surprised at how the loose stuff caught out the TC a little, and how much more controllable the G was even with HT's vs the Wrangler AT's of the Deefer.
I wonder how even having an ATB in the rear diff would reduce the wheel spin in that situation?
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The same way they cope with the AMG G-Class with its side exiting exhausts in front of the rear wheels with four doors?35" tyres standard....wonder how the cops will manage that one
But they are factory sir....no mate...you'll have to do a swerve and braking test...but...but..
Hopefully like light bars...eventually the cops will get over bigger wheels and tyres. It was a bit silly when they were fining for light bars when their own cars had them fitted as std
Or what Jeep was it that had roof mounted spotties?
All moot as while it'll be on Ford Oz's shopping list, it might be a few years before were see it.
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Excellent technical comparison. I would add a couple of things, for the break over test he obviously didn't know how to engage the super extended mode...still might not have succeeded but would have been fun to see. Perhaps he should have had the G do the same tests without front and rear lockers to highlight how good LRs ETC is and finally he perhaps should have done the test with a Defender that was equipped with rear locker.
On the face of it a great demonstration of the differences between ETC and fully locked vehicle. No doubt there's less fuss with the G.
Cheers,
Sean
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