Thread: Who assembled the Landys in OZ

Initially it was just Rover cars, then Graham helped unpacked the first CKD Series 1. It seems they had no idea what had been sent to them. Land Rover quickly outsold Rover cars, and both streams had different clientele.

They had to move out of Australia St when that was turned over to VW assembly. The building is still there, currently being converted to apartments.

Just found this that shows how old Faulls Motors in Perth were:

24 Nov 1932 - ROVER CARS. - Trove (nla.gov.au)

New Agency m Perth.



Well known in motoring circles through

out this State, Messrs. G. R. Faulls and

E. A. George are now established under

Fix this textthe company name of Faulls. Limited.



representing the 1933 Rover cars, the first

sample shipment of which has just arrived

and the new chassis are now on show on

premises at the corner of Hay and Milli

gan streets, Perth. .

My father had a Rover 75 for many years,it had that free wheeling device.
He also had a few wrecks,same model and others.One had a large light in the center of the grill.Maybe a 90?

Eventually replaced the 75 with a RRC.

Originally Posted by scarry

My father had a Rover 75 for many years,it had that free wheeling device.
He also had a few wrecks,same model and others.One had a large light in the center of the grill.Maybe a 90?

Eventually replaced the 75 with a RRC.

Faulls lent me one of those while my Land Rover was being prepared. Dangerous bloody things!

The one wih the centre light was called Cyclops" for obvious reasons. !951 P4

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Originally Posted by PhilipA

Its easy to tell some of the RRC's that were built in OZ.
The yellow 80-81 s were painted with some Traffic Yellow they had left over from an RTA contract.
The pale green metallic 4 doors are a Holden Colour.
and the Red ones were also a Holden colour I think, or it may have been Ford Track Red.
Regards Philip A

I've never seen this thread before...................

Just for info the 81 2 door body on my POS was from a CKD vehicle.

There were all sorts of little notes on masking tape inside the panels when it was initially stripped out when I put on its 74 chassis.

It's red as you describe, a Holden colour called 'Vintage Red' on any serious auto paint retailer database, and just about identical to 'Masai Red', the original Rover colour.

DL

Originally Posted by landy

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

Rover along with other marques under the British Leyland conglomerate were de-merged into Austin Rover and sold to BMW, who de-merged Land Rover, used the 4WD technology to develop the X series of SUV and onsold Land Rover to Ford PAG who also owned Aston Martin and Jaguar. Ford PAG couldn't make the British marques work, building a Jaguar on a Ford Lincoln platform, so they demerged and sold the Aston Martin name to joint venture capitalists and the remaining Jaguar Land Rover to Tata Industries of India. IMHO Tata is the best thing that happened to Land Rover since the Wilkes brothers.


BMW also asset stripped Austin Rover, kept the Mini Cooper tradename and renamed the remnants MG Rover, leaving a debt ridden wreck of a company with the traditional midlands factories and their unproductive workforce. MG Rover went into insolvency and the remainiing intellectual property sold to Chery in China. Land Rover however retained the Rover trademark and could, if they wished reintroduce the Rover name onto a range of cars.

From Wikipedia (so it must be true!):-

in the midst of BL's well-documented business troubles prompted the establishment of a separate Land Rover company but still under the BL umbrella, remaining part of the subsequent Rover Group in 1988, under the ownership of British Aerospace after the remains of British Leyland were broken up and privatised. In 1994 Rover Group plc was acquired by BMW. In 2000, Rover Group was broken up by BMW and Land Rover was sold to Ford Motor Company, becoming part of its Premier Automotive Group. In 2006 Ford purchased the Rover brand from BMW for around ?6 million. This reunited the Rover and Land Rover brands for the first time since 2000 when the Rover group was broken up by BMW.

But my mistake. First bought by British Aerospace then BMW then Ford PAG.

Can I clarify this as I'm a bit confused here... as I always thought British Aerospace sold Land Rover to BMW - sounds like its a more complex picture.

I'm not sure if I'm understanding this right, but was it like this: Land Rover was a subsidiary of British Leyland, and British Leyland is a subsidiary of Rover Group, and Rover Group was owned by British Aerospace (why would BAe even want to be involved with cars!) and BAe had bought Rover group from the Government???

Who actually sold what to BMW? Was it Rover Group that was sold by British Leyland to BMW, or British Leyland was sold by British Aerospace to BMW?

It's all a bit murky, eh Simon? British Leyland were never a subsidiary of Rover, or anyone as far as I know, the name was changed from British Leyland Motor Corporation to Rover Group in the mid-eighties. BL were partially owned by the government, ultimately nationised.
Leyland were originally truck manufacturers, later following the natural progression into busses. Leyland had a habit of buying there competition, either to eliminate them as such, or to gain access to superior componentary. AEC were Leyland's greatest competitor and conducted their business in a similar manner. Eventually the two marques were merged but Leyland held all the senior positions to the detriment of AEC, who had the development budget cancelled, prior to the release of a new engine. It will now never be known if this promising engine could have saved the conglomerate.
BLMC came about with the merger of Leyland Motors and British Motor Corporation, itself an amalgamation of various car manufacturers.
At the time of formation of BLMC the only profitable subsidiaries were Jaguar (and its subsidiary Guy) and Rover/Land Rover.
Without researching, I'm unsure of the actual timelines, but that alone would require reams to present.