Thread: P38 LPG conversion for MY02 - Melb??

Originally Posted by Doodey

Just noticed the LPG rebate is ending June30th (i think)

I may be mistaken - but I believe it just goes down another $250 in June 2010 - to make the new rebate $1500. The rebate started a few years back at $2000 and is meant to go down $250 a year until it ceases. I've had two rebates myself - a $2000 one and more recently the $1750 (Discovery and P38)

As for what system, personally I went with a sequential gas injection system bought from UK and installed in Melb - see my other threads on the topic RPI engineering swears by a simple gas venturi system (mixer into air intake type), which is the system I had on my 3.9 discovery and it was faultless in the 3 years I ran it on gas - no backfires... The SGI systems are certainly fancier but real world I don't know that I'm any better off than having a venturi type /shrug Not sure that's any help but it seems either system can be successful on a P38 - the SGI system is more commonly recommended (except by RPI), especially for Thor engines like yours. One analogy I read compared the venturi system to essentially putting a carburettor onto your fuel injected vehicle.

Cost varies hugely I found with the quotes I got around Feb 2010 - from $3500 for venturi right up to $8000 for a SGI system - average was more like $5000-$5500 for most sgi installs though. So in Melb I'd expect around $3500 for venturi and around $5200 for sgi

Things to look out for - get the biggest LPG tank you can find/fit.... small tanks are a pita and personally I wouldn't look at a tank that goes in the cargo space, I'd much rather have a donut in the spare tyre well or cut the well out altogether and put a big manifold tank in there (= $$$) If you chose a venturi system then read the various threads on potential backfire issues and fit an RR classic air box.

I've had no personal experience with them but Melbourne Land Rover recommend and use LPG1 in Lilydale and Ritters apparently know their stuff when it comes to LPG also.

Thanks Junosi, i just caught it on the radio while driving yesterday, so wasn't sure.
Thanks for clearing that up

And extra thanks for your added info, just the stuff i was looking for to get an idea whether to go ahead or not, just at the discussion with the missus stage.
Get LPG and use as main car or Not to get it and just leave it as the tow vehicle or sell it altogether and buy a Diesel (or even a different make vehicle altogether)
Would you get any extra on resell etc etc... All the usual for and againsts.

I kinda had $3600 as a ball park in my head, but really had no idea, its been years since i played with LPG conversions and back then it was just on Mazda E2000 2ltr 4pots... now that was cheap motoring.

The Rangie will be doing longer trips each week now, 400k's hwy driving plus normal town use.... Just a matter of adding up the pros and cons i guess

Originally Posted by Doodey

Sorry to belt out another "LPG" thread.

Have been reading a few on here, all good info....
Just noticed the LPG rebate is ending June30th (i think)

So wondered if there was any installers the forum recommended in Melbourne?
Or perhaps forum member that are installers....

I have no idea what system is best or what price to expect... its been a long time since i put LPG on a vehicle, and back then it cost $1200.

Does anyone have advice for a bloke thats running out of time?
Cost? Rebate? Which system etc etc Things to look out for?

Vehicle is a 2002 P38



Many Thanks

(and sorry if it's just another LPG Help thread)

G'day Doodey,

I had my 99 4.0 (Bosch electrics, same intake etc as yours) converted to injected LPG by my son in law - who has been doing gas conversions for years and works with a local dealer for approvals. Great, neat job with no problems. 9726 8602, Ben Remminga. (Moderators, I don't make anything out of this so please don't ping me!)

Quite bluntly, Ben is good. Very particular and does a class job. He supplies all the relevant paperwork and plates fixed to the vehicle etc.

Willem

Thanks Willem.... Yes i know its hard to recommend someone without looking like you are advertising sometimes, details taken, thank you for the contact.
Very helpful for someone new to the vehicle such as myself.

Out of interest, what LPG tank arrangement did you end up with? And range you get from that?

Cheers

My tank is a 90water litre (72 gas litre) Blue Lpg Toroid. I'm getting 350kms a tank from that which is 20l/100kms

Just remember, if you are going toroidal in the wheel well, you'll need to put the spare somewhere else and that costs money.

If you want to go fancy look at the liquid injection systems, more $ but nice benefits.

One thing Junosi did not mention was the lovely feeling of filling up at the gas pump and only being charged $50 at the till

Cricky, when i used to fill up on LPG it cost $12 a tank (how times have changed)
$50 would make me cry... but i guess its better than $90 a tank in fuel

Originally Posted by Doodey

Cricky, when i used to fill up on LPG it cost $12 a tank (how times have changed)
$50 would make me cry... but i guess its better than $90 a tank in fuel

Where are you filling up for $90.00?