Intermittent not starting

**wayneg** · 20th January 2014, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by RoverHse

Thanks Wayne. Just installed the new fuse box and new relays. Turned on the ignition, went through all the "set window" beeps, tried to start, and..... ABS FAULT! And won't even spin.

Back to the forums I go.

I would be putting the original fusebox back and try again, at least double check all the plugs snapped home OK . If you want to just try my gems fusebox to confirm its not the new box faulty I still have it here..

**TheTree** · 21st January 2014, 08:33 AM

Hi

This definitely sounds like an electrical problem, have you checked all the earth connections?

Perhaps it is worth running the electrical checks outlined here?

Sticky: Electrical Troubleshooting Updated 2010

Regards
Steve

**RoverHse** · 21st January 2014, 12:31 PM

Swopped back the old box as suggested by Wayne.... Starter kicked over and no more ABS fault. So thought I would sit down and make sure that the relays are all in the correct place, only to find that when compared relay by relay the fuse box layout was different!!!! Further investigations has shown that it is a '99- model YQE 103410, while I needed AMR 3375 or AMR 6405.

The difference is that the the box supplied has engine relays at RL2 and RL10, while mine has ABS at RL2 and RL10 is a blank, which will explain the ABS fault and no engine kick over.

Wayne, what does your one look like. I may take you up on your offer to get me back on the road while waiting for the swop out of my new box.

**wayneg** · 21st January 2014, 01:25 PM

We are in a reversed situation I ordered a Thor and they sent Gems, you the opposite. If mine was not used I would suggest a swap.

**RoverHse** · 22nd January 2014, 09:25 AM

Hi Wayne, I've sent you a PM.

**RoverHse** · 29th January 2014, 10:21 PM

Ok, so my new correct fuse box arrives.in it goes, turn the sky and starts.... Yay. Then all of a sudden the starter motor kicks in. I turn off the ignition, but the starter keeps going until I disconnect the battery. Now the minute I reconnect the battery the starter gets going without the ignition on??????

BECM serviced, new crank sensor and new fuse box, and still no go.

Anybody have ideas..

**Keithy P38** · 29th January 2014, 10:36 PM

Sticky solenoid? Bad relay? Ignition short?

I'm only poking, I have no idea.

Good luck!

**RoverHse** · 29th January 2014, 10:56 PM

I switched out the relay...no luck. Have not had any starter motor issues before either!!!!!

**Hoges** · 30th January 2014, 03:08 PM

I'd follow Keithy's suggestion about the solenoid. If you remove the key from the ignition so that the ignition switch is completely out of consideration. Remove the relevant relays. Now touch the disconnected lead to the battery terminal, does the starter fire up? If so, then the solenoid is somehow being energised, or, it's failing to release.

Also, carefully check how you have reconnected the new fuse box... are you sure all the heavy duty cables are properly routed/connected?

**RoverHse** · 30th January 2014, 07:55 PM

Thanks Hoges, I'm going to put a test light on the activation wire to the solenoid tonight to check if it is a power supply issue, if not then pretty sure it will be the solenoid.

I numbered the power cables to the fuse box when I removed them, and double checked the photo of the plugs on the bottom.

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