Thread: Rotating recovery points. Comparison and pricing.

The original RRC ARB bar had eyebolts fitted inline with the chassis. They were 4mm with a 3mm additional plate behind welded in. They were (IMO) vastly underrated only being capable of fitting a 3T shackle and rated to 1.25T ea.

As a comparison though a 2T eyebolt loaded to 20T only stretches 7mm (plastic deformation).

At the risk of speaking up and showing my ignorance, shock load is the danger, so easy easy when taking up the load.

Originally Posted by rathgar

Tal about my piecemeal responses - anyway,

This is interesting taken from Just Staps website

"NEW MANDATORY SAFETY STANDARD It is recommended that the minimum breaking strength of the .... etc

Pardon me for being pedantic, but how can something mandatory be recommended? Shouldn't it read "required "

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Originally Posted by AndyG

At the risk of speaking up and showing my ignorance, shock load is the danger, so easy easy when taking up the load.

The issue is the (mis)use of snatch straps. I am not at all a proponent of them, never use them and will never be recovered by one. I'll winch and catch up thanks.

Originally Posted by clubagreenie

The issue is the (mis)use of snatch straps. I am not at all a proponent of them, never use them and will never be recovered by one. I'll winch and catch up thanks.

i agree snatch snaps can be misused but there are times when winching simply wont do.

Yet to find it. But soon to have one at each end it'll be even less of an issue.

Originally Posted by Eevo

i agree snatch snaps can be misused but there are times when winching simply wont do.

yep, most typically if your a bogan rev head toyota driver who simply cant fathom that oversized lifted unstable and non roadworthy wheel spining flying debry and valve bouncing/governror riding are not mandatory for recovery work.

I think snatch straps are fantastic things, but I know how to use them and accept the risk...

I've had a 40t strap let go and nothing happened because it was set up correctly and had a dampener on it, plus no one was standing within 1.5x the radius of the strap... it practically dropped to the ground. I've had more dramatic failures with drag chains behind tractors.

I've even used one on an industrial site to recover a 5t forklift with my Discovery, WH&S bloke didn't bat an eye lid... strap was rated to 11000kg and as far as he was concerned it was fine (I know that will have a few people squirming in their seats).

Personally you couldn't pay me to recover a car off a bull bar mounted with crush cans, the crush cans would deform before the snatch strap fails (plenty of evidence of this applying to D2's from the USA), 15t loading would be a static loading, not an impulse. However most people don't get stuck to the point of using maximum force in a recovery very often... so it's probably ok in 90% of cases.

Swivels are all well and good, but providing the shackle pin does not bind (creating a bending moment), I see no issue with conventional type solid mounted recovery points. The binding issue can be overcome by using a sufficiently large diameter hole.

I've had a look at what Beaver provides in our catalogues at work (Total Tools), and can get a price in the next fortnight if anyone is interested (I'm off, sowing at the moment).