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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyG View Post
    Like for Example the pilot in Taiwan who shut down the wrong engine,.....
    Not the only time that has happened - was it Manchester?

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    Yes, that was one.
    I read a text on aviation accidents once, they all showed a sequence of errors that accumulated. None just happened. Most common reason was fatigue, but why did the fatigue occur, Peter Brock, another example.
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    Years ago a mate of mine was killed,he climbed the wrong ladder.

    He was a linesman,they had just finished their lunch break.

    Fatigue was a major cause in this accident.

    Today the incident wouldn't happen as they use an EWP not a ladder.

    In my opinion,fatigue and distractions are the major cause of the majority of all vehicle accidents.This includes very minor incidents also,not just injury and death related incidents.

    Lack of experience is also an issue,but mainly in the younger drivers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scarry View Post
    Years ago a mate of mine was killed,he climbed the wrong ladder.

    He was a linesman,they had just finished their lunch break.

    Fatigue was a major cause in this accident.

    Today the incident wouldn't happen as they use an EWP not a ladder.

    In my opinion,fatigue and distractions are the major cause of the majority of all vehicle accidents.This includes very minor incidents also,not just injury and death related incidents.

    Lack of experience is also an issue,but mainly in the younger drivers.
    Very few accidents have a single or even a single major cause. While fatigue is a significant factor in at least some motor vehicle accidents, by far the most common factor in fatal accidents (which are the only class of accident that is always fully investigated) is alcohol. Together with this factor you can expect a variety of other factors, including speed, fatigue, peer pressure, road defects, distractions, weather, time of day, etc, etc.

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    opinion or fact

    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    Very few accidents have a single or even a single major cause. While fatigue is a significant factor in at least some motor vehicle accidents, by far the most common factor in fatal accidents (which are the only class of accident that is always fully investigated) is alcohol. Together with this factor you can expect a variety of other factors, including speed, fatigue, peer pressure, road defects, distractions, weather, time of day, etc, etc.

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    Is this an opinion or a fact?. Not sure of you sources?. As stated there are many reasons incidents happen. The word accident is an easy escape for people to not take responsibility for what happened. Why single out one possible cause?

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    According to this...

    Crash behavioural factors - Statistics - NSW Centre for Road Safety

    Speed is the biggest killer, causing twice as many deaths as fatigue, or alcohol.
    Now it does say that in accidents where both speed and alcohol factors are present, they're added to both columns.
    That said, I'm skeptical. It may be that old mate looks down at the cigarette he just dropped in his crotch, speed creeps up to 120 and he crosses the road into a tree.
    Thus, speed related accident
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    when the SA govt brought out of the cause of road crash death stats a few years ago, only 4% was due to excess speed and 40% was inattention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco Muppet View Post
    According to this...

    Crash behavioural factors - Statistics - NSW Centre for Road Safety

    Speed is the biggest killer, causing twice as many deaths as fatigue, or alcohol.
    Now it does say that in accidents where both speed and alcohol factors are present, they're added to both columns.
    That said, I'm skeptical. It may be that old mate looks down at the cigarette he just dropped in his crotch, speed creeps up to 120 and he crosses the road into a tree.
    Thus, speed related accident
    Now you're thinking. It is impossible to do scientific study of something as random as motor vehicle accidents, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't try. It does mean though, that you can't make blanket statements about any accident.
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    If everyone drove at 20kph then there would hardly be any accidents at all. You could be as inattentive as you like and run straight into a tree and only dent your fender. It's the speed that actually kills you, there's no getting around it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikehzz View Post
    If everyone drove at 20kph then there would hardly be any accidents at all. .
    accidents would still occur.
    but less would be fatal.
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