Thread: Snatch strap recommendation

Originally Posted by Tank

My Hayman-Reese tow bar and hitch is rated at 4000kgs, more than adequate I would think, Regards Frank.

Quote"it's breaking strain is very low."

thats not a tow point, thats a recovery point.

Originally Posted by Eevo

thats not a tow point, thats a recovery point.

Really...???

Heres a picture of a "tow point" off a land cruiser



Its not rated and a similar point was used which bent the chassis like so



All vehicles have these sorts of tow points in order to be tied to trailers. I believe this is what Eevo is referring to as a tow point.

Here is a recovery point:



Rated tow hitches, such as a hayman reece or mitch hitch, can also be used as a recovery point.

Tow point vs rayed tow hitch. Two different things.

Hope that helps to clear up the confusion.

Cheers

Dan

I dont like bullbar mounted 'recovery' points. 11 years or so ago i purchased recovery points from 4x4 Intelligence - each steel plate weighed over a kg and came with 3 high tensile chassis bolts each side that bolted through existing holes in the rails after the silly tie down factory points were removed. The bolts go through both walls of each rail. In this goes 4.5 tonn rated shackles and a bridle strap to distribute force to both rails. I would never suggest towing from a light bull bar with especially one an air bagged equipped vehcile where there is a prospect of simply straightening the bull bar (steel replacement of factroy alloy) crush cans.

Cheers

And I would be very interested to hear from anyone who has had a recovery point fitted to a vehicle, and had it (point/vehicle fitting) "rated", and what it was rated at.


Martyn

Martyn i would be surprised if there was any such animal.

Cheers

Originally Posted by Disco-tastic

Heres a picture of a "tow point" off a land cruiser



Its not rated and a similar point was used which bent the chassis like so



All vehicles have these sorts of tow points in order to be tied to trailers. I believe this is what Eevo is referring to as a tow point.

Here is a recovery point:



Rated tow hitches, such as a hayman reece or mitch hitch, can also be used as a recovery point.

Tow point vs rayed tow hitch. Two different things.

Hope that helps to clear up the confusion.

Cheers

Dan

IMHO those Toyota recovery/tie down units are quite strong however, the one in your pictures with the bent chassis was incorrectly mounted and it appears that the force that caused the bending was applied from the side. Just some observations from someone who has used properly mounted ones without damage for numerous recoveries of Toyotas.

Originally Posted by Disco-tastic

Heres a picture of a "tow point" off a land cruiser



Its not rated and a similar point was used which bent the chassis like so



All vehicles have these sorts of tow points in order to be tied to trailers. I believe this is what Eevo is referring to as a tow point.

Here is a recovery point:



Rated tow hitches, such as a hayman reece or mitch hitch, can also be used as a recovery point.

Tow point vs rayed tow hitch. Two different things.

Hope that helps to clear up the confusion.

Cheers

Dan

No confusion Dan, Thanks.
The Toyota under chassis point pictured is in fact a TIE DOWN point used for securing said Toyota to a car carrier/trailer/etc.. As stated above by Dan.
If you ask Toyota they will tell you so, no way will they admit it is a RECOVERY point.
See my Post #18 this thread about front mounted (not bull bar mounted).
For the life of me I can't understand why, when you have a choice, would you mount the recovery point with the pin hole in the HORIZONTAL plane, look at the damage done to the Toyota chassis from an off-centre pull, imagine what it would do to a shackle, which is designed to only be loaded in a straight ahead line, how often do you find an anchor tree in the middle of the track.
I watched a Video yesterday about some clown (Ron Dahl I think) saying to his eager audience that it is totally wrong to attach the two eyes of a strap to a suitable sized Bow Shackle and that you should eliminate the Shackle and fit the two eyes (about 70mm wide each) directly to the winch rope/cable hook.
One eye was in the belly of the hook the other eye sitting mostly on top of the first eye and about only half the width of the strap eye with the other half hard up against the retaining clip.
So you have one eye correct, the other eye pulling against the tip of the hook (trying to straighten it out) and against the pressed metal retaining clip, yeh real smart.
A bow shackle is designed to take multiple eyes of a sling/strap a small winch cable hook is NOT.
No wonder there are so many accidents when you have ignorant people putting up Videos on U-Tube with 90% of watchers hanging off his every word and Believing it to be true, when COMMONSENSE should prevail and tell you this CRAP doesn't Compute, Regards Frank.