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Thread: Domin8r X 12,000lb winch

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    I know of a few places that won't fit them as they have had some that didn't work straight out of the box.
    I would suggest that anyone that buys one to test it first and be aware that if you get a 4WD shop to fit and something goes wrong with the winch you would also have to pay to have it removed and if it needs to be sent back you would also have to pay the freight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tank View Post
    Absolute crap, did you and these clowns that are hawking their (Vested interest) rope see with your own eyes, as I did in the destruction test the recoil of the Dyneema rope and do you really believe that wire rope is elastic, in other word the wire stretches and then returns to it's original length, physically impossible, if you stretch a bit of metal it stays stretched, no memory unlike Dyneema.Mythbusters show on Fox totally busted this ridiculous myth that breaking wire rope recoils and will cut you in half, so much bull****, they could not get their wire rope to snap and cut through the air like a scythe, why because wire rope is not elastic.Imagine what it would be like riding in an elevator with wire rope that stretched or trying to lift a load with a crane, it just does not happen, you and these pricks flogging Dyneema have been watching too many Hollywood movies, simple, NO elasticity, NO recoil, Regards Frank.
    Have seen anchor lines broken and the whip back killing and maiming people I am not at all convinced. Steel links significantly larger than our cables with 100s of tonnes of weight applied can and do come back in a hurry. Breaking of rig anchor chain. - YouTubeMate of mine is missing a few ribs. Honest

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    Elastic anchor chain

    That chain had to be connected to a Nylon rope, it just takes commonsense to to see the chain recoiled from where it was connected to, if there is no stretch in the steel links where does the energy come from to throw a chain like that, certainly not from the chain, impossible, Regards Frank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tank View Post
    That chain had to be connected to a Nylon rope, it just takes commonsense to to see the chain recoiled from where it was connected to, if there is no stretch in the steel links where does the energy come from to throw a chain like that, certainly not from the chain, impossible, Regards Frank.
    I am not a scientist but have seen fencing wire stretch to breaking point and past with significant recoil as many of us have. The Tugs towing a decommissioned warship may have been using towing hawsers connected to the anchor chain which are huge links in the incident I mention. The injury and death from the chain was on the ship a long way from the tug and with several cable lengths of the chain out (a cable is about 600ft) . The chain recoiled hitting my mate on his chest and breaking another guy who were both metres away from the lay of the cable. If the line broke and it was the only part stretched I cannot see how it could possibly push chain links. Just because you cannot see tension doesn't mean it is not there perhaps?On wire consider Thermal Expansion and Contraction. The coefficient of linear expansion (∝) of steel wire rope is0.0000125 = (12.5 x10-6) per oC and therefore the changein length of 1 metre of rope produced by a temperaturechange of t oC would be;Change in length ∆| = ∝ |o twhere:∝ = coefficient of linear expansion|o = original length of rope (m)t = temperature change (oC)The change will be an increase in length if the temperaturerises and a decrease in length if the temperature falls. ref The page cannot be found occurs due to heat or cold. The same you know occurs with steel as we used to cold to freeze fit or heat fit many steel parts.Tension and does impart energy to almost all mediums. I have been breaking some huge rocks with a few little chisels and a hammer. The imparted energy and fairly loud crack when they split is due to the relatively insignificant pressure I can impart. My thoughts is rope wins for several reasons for me. I won with my rocks

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    My mechanic has had 2 of the Dominator winches on his Patrol. Both have failed, but he said this was due to the control box frying (so to speak) because of water. He gave up on them but one of his mechanics has got the new Dominator X and he says that it looks like the control box is much better quality than previous models. He did say he never had a problem with the winch itself, just the control box.

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    Just got back from 7 days in high country Did mt Sunday road including 6 hours of winching 3 cars with dominator winches. I have an Dominator x only issue i had is the rope spinning on the drum.the rope clamp and bolt came out. This is due to the rope not being wound onto drum under load (probably mine/our fault for not doing it 1st and taking too much off drum in 2nd pull) . Other than i used it 4 times myself over 7 days and its paid for itself already.

    Suggestion if you buy one unspool and feed it back onto drum properly under load.

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    Suggestion if you buy one unspool and feed it back onto drum properly under load.
    That applies to Any winch that has new synthetic rope fitted, Otherwise the rope won't grip the drum and all the force is applied to the little bolt that attaches the rope to the winch drum and it WILL fail.
    It's pretty easy to preload the rope just find a gentle slope and winch the truck up it to preload the new rope, Do this and it wont fail
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    I have just swapped out the Un rated Hook that came with my replacement SK75 winch rope with a Winch Shackle Mount that is rated at 16,000lb or 7.25 tonne.
    I have had a look at various hooks on different winches and None of them are rated, Is this the "Norm"?

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    2004 D2 "S" V8 auto, ARB winch bar, Safari snorkel, Kings 1200lb winch, Titan rear drawers, UHF Radio, 9'' spotlights, 28'' lightbar 245/70/16 Yokohama AT's

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