Thread: Matilda's jammed rear drum brakes

Great - thanks groucho - so I'll need in total....

2 X Rear collars @ $75/00 each (genuine)
2 X One piece sealed for life rear bearing @ $49.99 each

And I'll source seals locally as I can't see them listed?

PS - Glen - I will contact FWD motors and see if they can do this stuff too.

That will get ya going......

Originally Posted by Scallops

Great - thanks groucho - so I'll need in total....

2 X Rear collars @ $75/00 each (genuine)
2 X One piece sealed for life rear bearing @ $49.99 each

And I'll source seals locally as I can't see them listed?

PS - Glen - I will contact FWD motors and see if they can do this stuff too.

hi go to mrat redcliff they are very good for parts or to fit ask for wayne regards jim

Originally Posted by russellrovers

hi go to mrat redcliff they are very good for parts or to fit ask for wayne regards jim

Have I made you mad? I'd like to have a go at this myself - I have a friend who can do the hydraulic press bit for me - and the rest isn't too hard (I hope! ). And I already use MR - my Puma is only serviced by them, but thanks for your reply.

Just a thought here Scallops - you may not need to press the bearing and collar off

An alternative method is to strike the end of the half-shaft vertically downwards onto a concrete floor (you can protect the floor with a piece of 5mm steel). After a few very solid blows the collar and bearing and backing plate should come free and slide down the shaft; this is the method Rover recommended to travellers if the bearing karked it in the middle of nowhere (they suggested a stone rather than concrete).

If the collar is in good condition it can be used again; if it is badly scored it is best to have a new one made with a 0.003" interference fit on the shaft. Of the two I bought for my car one was too loose to use, so I made my own.

To install the new collar heat it in boiling water and use the same technique in reverse to install the backing plate; bearing and collar.

Good luck with the new bearings I have heard that they are getting hard to find; I bought mine from FWD in Melbourne. If the old ones seem OK, keep them for emergency spares,

Cheers Charlie

Originally Posted by chazza

Just a thought here Scallops - you may not need to press the bearing and collar off

An alternative method is to strike the end of the half-shaft vertically downwards onto a concrete floor (you can protect the floor with a piece of 5mm steel). After a few very solid blows the collar and bearing and backing plate should come free and slide down the shaft; this is the method Rover recommended to travellers if the bearing karked it in the middle of nowhere (they suggested a stone rather than concrete).

If the collar is in good condition it can be used again; if it is badly scored it is best to have a new one made with a 0.003" interference fit on the shaft. Of the two I bought for my car one was too loose to use, so I made my own.

To install the new collar heat it in boiling water and use the same technique in reverse to install the backing plate; bearing and collar.

Good luck with the new bearings I have heard that they are getting hard to find; I bought mine from FWD in Melbourne. If the old ones seem OK, keep them for emergency spares,

Cheers Charlie

I reckon I want to do this once - and do it right. So I'll get the collars, bearings and seals and suck it up. But thanks for your thoughts.

I asked my bearing supplier about the rear bearings. The No on the bearing i have is SKF 5G 88128. He cant find a 5G listing but the 88128 No is still current for a Ford 9" axle bearing
. Now weather the 5G is a special L/R size i don't know. I will take the bearing in and get them to mic it up .Got me curious now, anyway the 88128
bearings are $44 bucks.......

Originally Posted by groucho

I asked my bearing supplier about the rear bearings. The No on the bearing i have is SKF 5G 88128. He cant find a 5G listing but the 88128 No is still current for a Ford 9" axle bearing
. Now weather the 5G is a special L/R size i don't know. I will take the bearing in and get them to mic it up .Got me curious now, anyway the 88128
bearings are $44 bucks.......

Thanks groucho - I sent Alex (at the Series 1 shop in Melbourne) an email telling him about my dilemma, and this is what he suggests....

Dan, it may be that someone has already installed new parts, and assembled it wrong, then not used it much as a result! So you may just need to swap things over, and fit new seals.

I have new seals, the other bits are all available. I suggest you press it all apart, (use a little heat on the collar) and reuse the original bits (except seals) if they are serviceable (the collars are meant to be reused if possible, new ones are supposed to be selectively fitted, so even if I send you a genuine part it may be a ill fit.)

Alex Ward

So Alex is suggesting just using new seals in the first instance. I'll pull the half axles, then get Blknight.aus to get them apart - we'll inspect the existing bearings and collars, and go forward from there.