My new 107, Lucky

**newhue** · 10th November 2011, 10:25 PM

Been a big day for me putting the steering back together. I'm no mechanic, much better at colouring in houses, but to spend the day with the old man who is a mechanic, was a nice thing. Trouble is, he knows, and I know, his past his reliable service date so we just replace parts as he wrecks them. Lucky for me today, not to many, only a wheel cylinder.

My good mate Scollops told me to forget about trying to stop a series from leaking oil, but I just can't help myself being a new owner, I had to give it a go.

stripping it down is the easy part. As you can see I have 25mm between diff and bump stop. That will be the next thing to spend my bucks on.

some bits all clean and ready to go

got a bit side tracked and fitted this the fairlead, it was easier to do

also had a call to say my new skids had arrived

We ended up getting it back together minus the wheel cylinder. Getting closer.

**inside** · 10th November 2011, 10:49 PM

Nice truck mate.

**newhue** · 11th November 2011, 10:29 PM

Spent the night starting at the junction box after installing the steering wheel. Thought my labelling of wires was better than it actually was, so deciphering the wiring diagram in the manual took some staring.
It would have helped if the wires actually had colour left in them instead of all being black, and that the junction box be wired the same way as the diagram. But still very happy, turned the key and no puffs of smoke, and all indicators, lights and horn work.

Well horn does but very soft and jittery; will have to do some work on that.
And the dip switch dips alright, to completely black out as in no lights. I read somewhere one head lights was meant to stay on but need to check.

Fitted the tyre to the bonnet to see how it looks, I think I leave it there, it's as iconic as the car I think.

**123rover50** · 12th November 2011, 07:26 AM

Looking good Jason. I forgot to ask. Did you get the felt bush for the steering column from Scollops?
Also noticed in your photo you have the brake hose clamped off but havnt got the end where it joins the steel pipe going through the bracket in the chassis. Is this intentional?
When you are finished we could get a SLOW run to somewhere central and catch up.

Keith

**wrinklearthur** · 12th November 2011, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by newhue

looking at the lubricants chart in the owners manual, SAE 50 is suggested for gear box and transfer case.

Can't find any of that weight anywhere, wondering what others run.

Hi Newhue

After repeated failures, of the phosphores-bronze bush for 2nd and 3rd gears, I found out that using, EP 90 oil and its aluminium oxide additive, which is for wear protection of diffs, when used in a series gearbox, reacts with that bush, causing it to break down.

To find out where you can obtain, straight 50 grade mineral oil, just ring your local oil distributer and they will arrange to have some sent to a outlet near you.

**LRO53** · 12th November 2011, 08:58 PM

I think you can just run straight SAE50 engine oil in the gearbox you will be fine. Rover recommend this on the oil plate.

Castrol Tell me the following, I would disregard the comments on SAE30 grade for the engine as the Oil Plate in the Land Rovers state oil for the UK market. You would want a SAE 40 grade at least for QLD

Hi Alex,

Thank you for your email enquiry.

I have listed below a number of lubricating oil suggestions and some
notes that should be of use to you;

Engine: Agricastrol Medium
This is a SAE 30 grade engine oil, the most comparable oil in our
current range would be Castrol Tection Mono 30.

Gearbox: Agricastrol Heavy
This is a SAE 50 grade engine oil. Engine oils are often used in
certain transmissions as they don't contain any EP additives. Where
high proportions of yellow metals (brass/bronze) are present then high
level of EP additive (as per that found in most modern automotive gear
oils) may be too harsh on this material.

Engine oils don't contain EP but do contain antiwear additives that give
you some load carrying ability without harming yellow metals. In the
above case I would suggest using either a SAE 50 engine oil (Tection
Mono DD50) or a transmission oil that incorporates engine oil chemistry
in the same grade (Castrol TFC 450).

Steering: Agricastrol Gear Oil Medium
Unfortunately, I've gone back quite a way and cannot locate any
information on this product or separate specification listing. Is there
any specification/grade information or alternate list of recommended
products available?

Axle: Agricastrol Gear Oil EP
Based on the information that I have, Land Rover over this period seemed
to be indicating a Hypoid (API GL5 type oil) be used in a SAE 140 /
85W140 viscosity grade. In our range, this would be covered by the
Castrol EPX 85W140.

With regards to API GL levels the numbers do give us an indication of
the level of EP additives present. Having said that, the level of
yellow metals used (and the load carrying requirement) will influence
what API GL levels would be quoted by the equipment manufacturer.

Regards,

**newhue** · 13th November 2011, 07:42 PM

Yes my father tells me engine oil was used in gearbox's regularly in the 50,60, 70's. It's finding the straight SAE 50 that's the problem.
A Castrol representative suggested GTX 20w-50 engine oil in the white container as a gear box and trans oil.
I see down the road from me there is a company called The Oil Man who has a straight SAE 50 trans oil so I might give him a go. Was quoted $105 for a 20lt.

I have used an 80-90EP in the diffs, and had some straight SAE 140 floating around for the steering box.

**chazza** · 14th November 2011, 07:51 AM

Have a look at Penrite's site; they make oil specifically for classic cars,

cheers Charlie

**numpty** · 14th November 2011, 10:46 AM

Nice work Jason.

Where did you get the tyres? They'll look good on Lucky.

**wrinklearthur** · 14th November 2011, 11:03 AM

Hi Jason

This information is for a series three, which is essentially the same gearbox, with one extra synchromesh ring set fitted.

Reference; Castrol Australia - NetLube

Commercial Vehicles - Light/Medium & 4WD
LAND ROVER
Series III, 2.25 Litre Eng., 4x4 (1974-1983)

CRANKCASE

CASTROL GTX 20W-50
Castrol GTX 20W-50 uses modern additive technology to provide extra protection for older engines requiring 20W-50 engine oils. Castrol GTX 20W-50 provides greater reliability for your engine. New improved formulation for superior protection against sludge. Advanced protection against higher temperatures and stresses encountered in pre-2002 engines. Premium quality base oils and anti-wear additives that extend the life of your engine. Is compatible with catalytic converters and oxygen sensors. Helps minimise oil consumption. Meets and exceeds API SN/CF. Castrol GTX 20W-50 is suitable for petrol, LPG or CNG cars, light commercial vehicles and 4WDs where API SN/CF or earlier specifications are recommended.

or CASTROL GTX MODERN ENGINE 15W-40
Castrol GTX Modern Engine 15W-40 uses the latest technology to meet the needs of today’s more demanding modern engines. Castrol GTX Modern Engine 15W-40 provides greater reliability for your modern engine. Contains anti-sludge formula that provides 25% better sludge protection compared to tough industry standards*. Anti-wear additives that extend the life of your engine. Advanced protection against higher temperatures and stresses encountered in modern engines. Provides at least 50% better high temperature wear protection than the toughest API standards. Is suitable for 4, 6 and 8 cylinder engines built by most manufacturers from 1995, provides superior protection for turbo chargers, multivalve systems and catalytic converters, delivers higher performance reserve for longer oil change intervals and/or smaller sump sizes in modern cars. *vs. API SN/CF Industry Standards. Castrol GTX Modern Engine 15W-40 meets and exceeds API SN/CF, ACEA A3/B4 requirements. Suitable for petrol, diesel, LPG or CNG cars, light commercial vehicles and 4WDs where API SN/CF or earlier specifications are recommended.

Service Refill Capacity: 6.2 Litres.
See note 337 below.
MANUAL TRANSMISSION

CASTROL VMX-M 75W/85
Mineral transmission and transaxle fluid especially formulated as a factory fill fluid for Mitsubishi vehicles and used in passenger cars, 4WD's and light commercial vehicles. SAE 75W/85, API GL4.

Service Refill Capacity: 1.5 Litres.
DIFFERENTIAL

CASTROL EPX 80W/90
Multipurpose gearbox, steering gear and differential oil for passenger cars, light trucks, farm tractors and earthmoving equipment. SAE 80W/90, API GL5.

Service Refill Capacity: 1.7, 2.5 Litres.
See note 15 below.
4WD TRANSFER

CASTROL VMX-M 75W/85
Mineral transmission and transaxle fluid especially formulated as a factory fill fluid for Mitsubishi vehicles and used in passenger cars, 4WD's and light commercial vehicles. SAE 75W/85, API GL4.

Service Refill Capacity: 2.5 Litres.
4WD DIFFERENTIAL

CASTROL EPX 80W/90
Multipurpose gearbox, steering gear and differential oil for passenger cars, light trucks, farm tractors and earthmoving equipment. SAE 80W/90, API GL5.

Service Refill Capacity: 1.7 Litres.
See note 30 below.
BRAKE
CASTROL BRAKE FLUID HD DOT 3
A heavy duty brake fluid suitable for use in disc and drum brakes where a dot 3 fluid is required.

or CASTROL RESPONSE SUPER DOT 4
Castrol Response Super DOT 4 is suitable for use in all brake fluid systems in cars, and light commercial vehicles requiring either a DOT 3, DOT 4 or Super DOT 4 product (Not suitable for use where a mineral oil based fluid is specified).

RADIATOR

CASTROL ANTIFREEZE-ANTIBOIL
A fully formulated, ethylene glycol based coolant designed to meet the requirements of the majority of cars and light commercial vehicles with petrol and diesel engines. Use at 30 - 50% concentration as recommended by the vehicle manufacturer.

Service Refill Capacity: 8.1 Litres.
See note 921 below.
NOTES
15 Rear differential.

30 Front axle swivel pin housings, use CASTROL EPX 80W/90, 0.5 litre each.

337 May also use CASTROL MAGNATEC.

921 Do NOT mix Castrol coolant with other brands of antifreeze, coolants or corrosion inhibitors because of possible incompatibility of inhibitors. Follow manufacturer's recommendations for coolant concentration.

Capacities shown are approximate only. Where the manufacturer specifies the capacity as including filter/s, the capacity is marked thus (*). Unless otherwise indicated (e.g. by a notation), capacities shown are service refill quantities. In all cases, the dipstick or level plug should be used as a final check.

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