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    Hydraulic lock

    Regards the high oil pressure, I would be watching out for hydraulic lock.

    Hydraulic Lock of the engines lubricating oil occurs as the speed of the engine raises, the oil pump then is delivering more oil volume, the extra oil can not then pass through the oil galleys and it's relief valve fast enough, with that the oil pressure suddenly spikes.
    This is presented as a sudden load on the drive train that drives the oil pump and usually breaks a tooth from a gear or shears the driving pin from the shaft driving the pump.

    I have seen more instances of hydraulic lock than I would wish for;
    With a McCormick Farmall Super A tractor, the winding up of a hydraulic hoist relief valve so supposedly increasing the tractor's lifting capacity, resulted in the oil pump locking up breaking the valve timing gear that drove the hoist pump.

    With a Massey Ferguson 194-4, the fitting by the dealer of extra remote controls to the bank resulted in decreased flow through the system and that resulted in the hydraulic pump blowing the end plate off the hoist pump. That problem was rectified by fitting another higher capacity relief valve near the pump between the inlet and outlet.

    Just recently I have been given a ex army six cylinder 2.6 Land Rover engine, it had the drive gear to the oil pump and distributor broken, looking for a cause I found the oil cooler lines had been damaged, kinking the pipelines, this would have restricted the overall oil flow and then loaded the oil pump breaking that gear, it most likely could have happened when the engine was revved when the oil was cold.

    At least, I suggest to ease your relief valve setting to ensure the flow is always adequate, that relief valve could have been screwed up on the worn engine to stop bearing rattle and now with work done may need resetting.
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    Oil filter types

    I would check my workshop manuals for the correct setting, as there would be difference in oil pressures between the 2 litre siamese bore, with it's bypass oil filter and the 2 litre spread bore with a full flow oil filter.
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    Yea but getting different figures from different manuals...my hard copy should be here tomorrow . It's being tested( club rego) then back to the shed till I sort it out,,
    2002 defender 110 , 1955 86 inch

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    Well im legal now..club plates in hand .
    Ill wait for the banjo bolt metering plug before buggerizing around in it.. if the info in my pdf manual is acurate the pressures fine, but im not silly{hmmm????} enough to beleave only one l r workshop manual, ill wait till ive got the hard copy to arrive.
    2002 defender 110 , 1955 86 inch

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfc View Post
    Well im legal now..club plates in hand .
    Congratulations!

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    thanks to all you guys help and past posts sir authur ,still got paint and asorted things thatll be breaking ,but thats the game
    2002 defender 110 , 1955 86 inch

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrinklearthur View Post
    Regards the high oil pressure, I would be watching out for hydraulic lock.
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    Interesting - something I have not really thought about. My paper manual gives the pressure at 55-65 psi at 30 mph, but it looks like it is describing the '48 to '54 engines with the bypass filter.
    Mine has the full flow so I assume it is the spread bore. can't find any reference to that in this manual, only 50 to 60 psi for the diesel.

    The little bus has now done 290k miles with no mishaps (and I have had it up to 5000 rpm a couple of times (it is balanced), so I think I will leave the relief valve as it is.

    Thanks Arthur.

    Cheers,
    Terry
    80 109" 2.6 P ex Army GS, saved from the scrappie.
    95 300tdi 130 Single cab tray.
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    yea im thinking the siamese engines like the illustration you describe have a lower oil presure than the canister 1955 on jobs .that photo confused me to ..im guessing the figures from 123 rover50' s 1954 manual {30 35 psi ??} is for the kind with the canister on the pasenger side.while the 55 65 psi is for the latter engines with the paper filter, isnt there a difference in bearing size {big end} between the two as well?
    2002 defender 110 , 1955 86 inch

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfc View Post
    hmmmm 2L 1955 engine opperation AO/6 check that at least 20 psi at idle. adjust to 55psi to 65 psi at 30 mph thats from the black fronted workshop manual...1960 second edition{ pdf}
    where the old engine needed thicker oil this one likley needs thinner..
    ps it settles on 40psi at idle when warm and just under 60 psi at 30mph in 4th gear on flat road{ajusted with releif valve}

    So different engine{1600 or siamese?} or typo in my manual????? {ps its a 1957 engine}
    regards mark
    My manual is the October 1963 reprint of the March 1960 edition (pale green cover), and the Operation AO/6 wording is exactly the same as your pdf. Engine specs show the only difference is bore size, no different listings for bearing size for 1.6 and 2.0 engines.

    Were some earlier 2.0 engines siamese bore?

    Terry
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    95 300tdi 130 Single cab tray.
    2010 Guzzi 750

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    yea up to 54 i recall
    2002 defender 110 , 1955 86 inch

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