Thread: Tiny bit excited

Pic1 - angled bracket for mudguard before and after pic, after cleaning, decided against painting them as i like the old untouched look to blend in with the paint work on the LR

Pic2 - the before and after pics of alum strip on top shelf of the firewall, again not painting just cleaning up and screwing back, this sits on the lip of the air vents and held in with 3 little screws

p1 p/s mudguard bracket to firewall cleaned and fitted with new bolts, like the look of the alum
edit : just realised that bracket looks to be the wrong one (could be d/side fitted to p/side)

p2 p/s firewall chassis bracket removed, to make room to clean and paint chassis, which not shown in pic but has been done

p3 above bracket now cleaned and painted silver to match the chassis colour, just need to replace the old bolts with new ones so off to bunnings

also tidied up some additional paint work around the chassis and screwed in the long 2x alum strips previously cleaned for the bottom of the air vents

hi all,

p1 bought some new bolts for the rear strap and bugger they do not fit, wrong thread, they seem to be really hard to obtain, i want to use new zinc bolts but cannot locate that same thread even though it looks very similar

p2 same prob with the inner windscreen bolts, bought new but again diff thread, need help sourcing new and the terminology needed to explain whats needed, what type of bolt are they?

p3 sanded and painted strap plates ready for install once bolts sorted

p4 windscreen fitted, side bolts easy to source because they are a bolt and nut. above are bolts only so not easy to replace the nuts from within. firewall still needs a lot of work.

I usually say the bolts are for a Landrover old, british made. Whats the proper terminology i need to help explain what type of bolts Landrovers have in general?

It may be easier to take the bolts to the shop (a BOLT shop) with you,, they’ll soon determine what they are.

I did take the bolts to a proper bolt shop and was given these as replacement bolts, but they did say the bolts were an unusual size, the length was unusual and the thread was the closest they could find as replacements. Not sure whether to try another bolt shop. The problem is the thread is bound into the chassis for the strap plates, so could prob re thread to diff size but thought replacement bolts would should be available freely. Any suggestions welcomed.

Most bolts are BSF British Standard Fine which started to get fazed out in the early 60s. Small screws are BA ususally. You would need to ring around maybe someone like Lee Bros Parramatta could help.
I just clean the critical old ones up and paint with some zinc spray. They were originally sheradised like Gal but a thinner coating.
Companies in the UK do them in sets but expensive.

As Bundy says. All the original bolts and nuts in the Series 1 will be BSF for fine threaded bolts and Whitworth for coarse threaded ones, except for small screws which are BA. There are a few bits with strange threads such as the plug in the head for an electric block heater - I can't remember what it is, and there are a few BSP.

Be aware though that it is likely that after this time many bolt/nut sets are likely to have been replaced with UNF or possibly ISO, and a lot of parts where assemblies have been replaced with those from later models will have UNF or (rarely) ISO. Contemporary accessories could be any of the above, later accessories are usually ISO.

Whitworth should be fairly readily available, but there are not many of these. BSF and BA do exist, but can be hard to find the exact size you want - worth trying a long established fastener specialist or long established auto parts place.

As noted, the original fasteners are mostly sherardised, which is where the surface of the material is alloyed with zinc by heating (below the melting point of zinc) it in an airtight container packed with zinc dust. It has the advantage over galvanising that the dimensions are unchanged.

Am I getting old is is it a sign of the times that someone in a 'bolt shop' said that they were an unusual size then offers something 'close' ?!

Most laugh when I ask for BSF or BA but at least know what they are.
A local one could get BSF but limited range of sizes and you have to buy box quantities. BA is also available but most suppliers want to sell by the box because it's not something they get asked for very often.

This company can help but they are not cheap Classic Fasteners
Overseas suppliers can be cheap but shipping starts to make it expensive Namrick Limited

First you need a thread gauge so you can work out what bolts you require.
52 Blades Screw Thread Gauge Angle 60deg Metric 55deg Imperial Tap Pitch Inspection | eBay

Once you know the TPI you can work out the thread type (BSF, Whitworth, BA etc.)
Imperial Thread Forms and Pitch | Anzor Australia, Brisbane


Colin