Thread: Cable driven wipers

G'day COFFEY76

The Series 2a's fitted with cable operated wipers(chassis suffix "D"onwards Neg earth) only had single speed units fitted (Lucas type LU-DR-3A,Rover part No R551226)and it was not self parking, and most 2a's were built before the Australian Design regulation came into force,1971,and only about 1973 was the requirement for 2 speed wipers and twin external rearveiw mirrors included,so if your vehicle in say 1969 then it predates the ADR's by a couple of years and those rules do not affect your vehicle, as the ADR's are NOT retrospective.


Hope that is of some help

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Cheers everyone.

ive found a document from a government infastructure website. the document is the 1984 edition of the ADR's which state that ADR 16 windscreen wipers must have 2 speeds and 45 cycles per minute for all vehicles manufactured on or after 1/1/73. with this information i will talk to the engineer. in theory if i have the paperwork then he will hear me out. but seeing as he is the one that has to sign the papers ill have to do what he wants.


NOW all i need to do is make sure i can past the brake test...

G'day COFFEY76


You do NOT have to do what he wants he, has to do what the ADR's require, and ADR 16 only comes into affect on vehicles built after1/1/1973 and make that quite clear or that you will call the registry and report him, for not complying with the ARD rules as set out by Vic roads



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Hey Mick - your point about the 2 speed wipers requiring engineering is interesting. I've been looking for a S3 motor for mine so I can have 2 speed. I have no intention of getting an engineers certificate(!) - my interpretation is that it would be the same as putting H3 headlights into a car that had sealed beam units from the factory, no engineering required as they meet the current requirements for headlights.

I could be wrong but geez, you'd be stiff to get pulled up for having 2 speed wipers in your SIIA landy!

cheers,

Adam

Originally Posted by UncleHo

G'day COFFEY76


You do NOT have to do what he wants he, has to do what the ADR's require, and ADR 16 only comes into affect on vehicles built after1/1/1973 and make that quite clear or that you will call the registry and report him, for not complying with the ARD rules as set out by Vic roads



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I have had a few run in's with RTA inspectors and such over the years
and i often had to tell them you FOLLOW the the ADR laws you don't MAKE them. If you have to go further up the chain, fine.........

Originally Posted by akelly

Hey Mick - your point about the 2 speed wipers requiring engineering is interesting. I've been looking for a S3 motor for mine so I can have 2 speed. I have no intention of getting an engineers certificate(!) - my interpretation is that it would be the same as putting H3 headlights into a car that had sealed beam units from the factory, no engineering required as they meet the current requirements for headlights.

I could be wrong but geez, you'd be stiff to get pulled up for having 2 speed wipers in your SIIA landy!

cheers,

Adam

Adam,
I was being pedantic and taking the letter of the law to the nth degree so to speak.
Its the sort of thing an officious bureaucrat would do if they took a dislike to you. This happened to the guy next to me trying to register a Torana whilst I had a ridiculously easy time with a roadworthy as dogey as. (Don't get me wrong. The Mercedes is being brought up to scratch.)
I also have a Moke with a Gemini wiper motor. Who would notice? You're right about the headlights if you take the letter of the law to the nth degree but who is going to get an engineers report for that. They'll probably want the wiring loom to be increased in current carrying capacity and fused anyway (a good idea to do).
The question is "Where is the line drawn and who draws it?" (I have found being polite and saying yes a lot helps although puting it into practice is hard.)
Adam, I'd change the wiper motor and not worry about it.

Adam,
Your point about bringing an old car up to current ADR's, If you brought a '69 Falcon up to the spec's of a current Falcon, you would definitely need an engineers report. (I've seen that done)

Cheers UncleHO,
its always encouraging to get some firm advice.
Being new to engineers its hard to know whats legit and whats not.

Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

I assume they're vacuum operated and oiling the wiper blades is not an option.

They are electric. Very few Brit vehicles had vacuum wipers. I can only recall some old Fords, e.g., Anglias and Prefects having vacuum wipers. Even my old '38 Vauxhall had electric wipers.