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  1. 28th July 2010, 02:05 PM #1
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    Another new series III 88" diesel

    Just bought a SWB for farm use.
    Been looking for a diesel for a while.
    What is strange is that it has County stickers on the doors and trim but has never had a heater.
    Seems ok rust wise, few dints, no brakes but it is a PIG to start.
    Need to wind it over for ages before it will fire.
    Will re start after about 20 cranks once warm.
    Once running blows blue smoke.
    When running there is no excessive knocking noises (less noise than my 300tdi at idle)
    Fuel and filter are ok.
    There is power to all glow plugs.
    Are there any fuel or oil additives or some kind of flush that may help.
    I am guessing it needs rings (without doing a compression test)
    Any ideas would be appreciated.

    Cheers, Pat.
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  2. 28th July 2010, 02:40 PM #2
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    Sounds like rings/compression. Blue smoke is engine oil, isn't it?

    Could just need a de-glaze, if she hasn't done any hard work for a while.
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  3. 28th July 2010, 02:45 PM #3
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    Sounds like compression is low. However could also be injectors.

    However in winter where you are it will take about 1.5 mins of glow to get it to start. Does it crank over rapidly? Cranking speed makes a huge difference.

    Mine will start straight away once at full operating temp.

    Is there much crankcase blowby?

    Quote Originally Posted by d@rk51d3 View Post
    Could just need a de-glaze, if she hasn't done any hard work for a while.
    This is worth a try. When my starter died, I drove the IIA around for a while by roll starting it and leaving to idle when I couldn't stop on a hill. It started burning a bit of oil, but working the engine hard once I had fixed the starter sorted that. It wasn't any harder to start though... so the problem may be more serious.
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  4. 28th July 2010, 06:04 PM #4
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    I have used the oil flush and the fuel additive from this business and I have been most impressed with it; check out the testimonials (mine is on there)

    Cost Effective Maintenance - Home

    Cheers Charlie
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    any photos?
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  6. 28th July 2010, 07:06 PM #6
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    no heater???? thought it was standard on SIII's.....
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  7. 28th July 2010, 08:19 PM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by schmierer LR at singleton View Post
    any photos?
    Quote Originally Posted by Sprint View Post
    no heater???? thought it was standard on SIII's.....
    IIRC heaters were an option on S111's. Having said that, I also was led to understand that Aussie S111's all had the option. A pic of the left hand gaurd (or under the bonnet) should tell us.
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  8. 28th July 2010, 10:12 PM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by isuzurover View Post
    Sounds like compression is low. However could also be injectors.

    However in winter where you are it will take about 1.5 mins of glow to get it to start. Does it crank over rapidly? Cranking speed makes a huge difference.

    Mine will start straight away once at full operating temp.

    Is there much crankcase blowby?



    This is worth a try. When my starter died, I drove the IIA around for a while by roll starting it and leaving to idle when I couldn't stop on a hill. It started burning a bit of oil, but working the engine hard once I had fixed the starter sorted that. It wasn't any harder to start though... so the problem may be more serious.

    Thanks for reply

    I did not notice blow by but was not really looking.
    Motor spins over freely. Maybe too freely.

    Will go down the Cost Effective Maintenance track chazza posted up, could be a cheap fix (thanks mate)
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  9. 29th July 2010, 08:18 AM #9
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    Sorry no picks tried this morning camera is dead.

    RE Heater no mounting or inlet holes in fire wall or OS guard.

    Also it has the strengthened front and rear axle housings. This is the 4th series III I have owned (2x109" & 1x88') and none have had this feature.

    Cheers Pat
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  10. 29th July 2010, 01:38 PM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by wizzid View Post
    Sorry no picks tried this morning camera is dead.

    RE Heater no mounting or inlet holes in fire wall or OS guard.

    Also it has the strengthened front and rear axle housings. This is the 4th series III I have owned (2x109" & 1x88') and none have had this feature.

    Cheers Pat
    Sure it is a SIII and not a bitsa with IIA parts? Most IIA's seem to have the strengthening. Also - could be a diesel thing. You should also have 11 leaf front springs (which are overkill).
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