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    109 suspension upgrade

    Hey all

    I'm wanting to upgrade my suspension pretty soon.
    I'm wondering if I can do my shocks first and then springs later?

    Can I get a decent improvement in ride with new shocks alone?

    I plan to stick with the stock springs for a while but I would like to remove a couple of leaves.

    Any recommendations for shocks?
    Ive used Rancho's before which seemed pretty good, no other experiences though.

    Any advice would be great.

    Cheers
    Ash

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    ashhhhh Guest
    So has no one upgraded their shocks?

    I had considered TJM XGS stuff but a response from the "tech" guy makes me wonder.... "yeah they've got an adjustable spring seat...so you can get longer coils..."

    Ive also emailed Bilstein & Koni, no response yet.

    OME get varied reviews...

    Its a very confusing area, if anyone has opinions it would be appreciated!

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    It depends what you want to achieve...... Assuming that your old shocks are past their best you will definitely get an improvement in roadholding with new shocks but you may not notice a great deal of difference in offroad performance over slow stuff.
    As a part way upgrade to the suspension it is a way of improving things so that when you spend the $$ on the springs you will have a good system.
    Have a think about what your final desired setup is though and ensure that you are able to use what you choose as you do more work to the suspension.

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    Basically the car is very bouncy at the moment, going over a speed hump involves spinal surgery and it is generally rough as guts.

    I want to make the ride as smooth as an old Landy can be.
    I don't carry loads, I want it soft and flexy.

    I would be quite happy to blow a wad of cash on a full spring/shock setup provided I am guaranteed an improvement.

    Im just very suss about 90% of the products on the market.
    Ive owned a few different fourbies and every time I have bought suspension "upgrades" they have been harsh riding/poor quality/waste of money.
    Usually it is because the shock/springs were not matched to the vehicle they were advertised as being made for...

    I'm not against parabolics but it seems like no one in Australia can supply them?

    As for shocks, well like I said im confused.

    In general I would rather follow peoples experiences than BS marketing.

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    Adjustable shocks are good as you say your not carrying loads so at least you can play with the settings

    As for springs see Isuzurover (Ben) his series 2a could out flex my old disco and what he doesn't know about leaf springs isn't worth knowing (also I nice bloke to boot)

    Adam

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    Shocks don't do much on a leafer. Interleaf friction does most of the damping. I once broke a front shock 4x4ing - so removed it. I drove offroad for 2 days and on-road about 300 km home. I couldn't notice the difference.

    NB _ the above does not apply with parabolics, as they have reduced friction.

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    With a leaf sprung Rover I have always found that the Genuine shocks are as good as any of the aftermarket stuff.
    Not so with Coils though
    Mind you what are you getting when you buy Genuine these days

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    the first things to do to improve ride comfort is oil your springs if they are the standard spring packs, old dry/rusty packs are almost solid due to the friction

    i had a set that were like girders due to rust and dryness, a couple of weeks after wire brushing, washing with diesel and frequent oiling they gave a lovely ride, in my opinion they were better than the parabolics i eventually swapped them out for

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    Did you take them off the vehicle to wash in diesel etc? Or just wire brush what you could reach and oild etc?

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    i jacked the chassis up so that the axles hung from the springs which opened up the leaves slightly....

    i then just wire brushed them whilst still in place then painted them with diesel that penetrated the rust to assist the oil the seep in between the leaves....

    i used any old oil i could find (waste engine oil etc) and a high pressure squirty can to feed it on to the edges on the leaves and watched the capillary action suck it in between them....

    i then took it out and about over speed bumps/anything for a couple of days and repeated the exercise with the oil can...

    after a week or two i gave the leaves a good wash in diesel and a steam cleaner to blow the crud off and then treated them again, the rust steadily broke up and oozed it's way out, all the while polishing the frictional surfaces ....

    i frequently repeated the oiling process for probably three or four weeks and it gave a lovely ride....

    just be prepared for lots of oil drips so either park it on waste ground/the road or grass verge if you worry about oil on your hardstanding or get 4 seed trays and 4 bricks to put under the spring plates to catch the drips (the bricks are to put in the trays to stop them blowing away)

    hope that helps

    question ...

    do you have heavy duty spring packs fitted ?? as nothing will ever make a ride on them comfortable unless you permanently carry half a ton in the tub

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