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    Timing?

    Yes I have one of those engines (a 186) but I'll ask for help here anyway as it seem many have had experience on these engines.

    I'm a poor student and am loving owning a Landy and fixing it when it breaks (which seems reasonably regularly) but it seems I can never get ahead and start to actually care for the engine and vehicle. For example I only just found enough money to finally do an oil change the other day one month after buying it. Anyway I'm not complaining just excusing myself for not purchasing a workshop manual yet (I have one for the Landy but they don't cover the 186 for some reason).

    So since I don't have a manual I'm pretty useless. I seem to be able to follow instructions pretty well but I don't have any guidance and can't afford to see a mechanic.

    My problem: the engine has developed a clunking sound (after Castle Hill) and was overheating. I changed the oil and coolant but the clunking sound didn't go away (not that I thought it would). It seemed to get rid of the overheating problem though. My diagnosis would be timing but I could be completely wrong and time and money are both limited.

    Any ideas/suggestions?

    Greatly appreciated
    Reuben - I don't have a life I have a Land Rover

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    get a recording of the sound and post it up, using such accurate words as a clunk, a rattle or a squeek when talking landrover is about as helpful as saying, "have you seen my mate? hes a human"

    when and how does it clunk, where does it sound like its coming from?

    static timing for the 186 is between 8 + 14 degrees btdc
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    I'll try and get a recording (I was sure you would understand exactly what I meant by clunk but anyway). It will make a rattly sound sometimes when idling whch increases to a clunking sound on takeoff but once its moving it'll settle down to the 'normal' landy noses.
    Reuben - I don't have a life I have a Land Rover

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    sounds like low oil pressure.


    you might get away with adding an oil addative for older engines, what grade oil did you put in?
    Dave

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    20W-50

    I think my problem may actually be the exhaust system. One of the brackets is broken but there's so many rattles etc. it could have been both. I fixed the PCV seal it wasn't sealed properly and now my oil pressure is at approx 200kpa and the engine is sounding great again...(did I just imagine it??)

    What should the oil pressure be at?

    Thanks for your help
    Reuben - I don't have a life I have a Land Rover

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    about 35-40psi, or 240-280ish kpa at idle and upto 60psi or 420ish kpa at full revs

    on edit...

    wrong, thats generic diesel engine pressures

    15-25 at idle and 40-45 at full rpms.
    Last edited by Blknight.aus; 28th September 2010 at 09:42 PM. Reason: wrong engine hat on,
    Dave

    "In a Landrover the other vehicle is your crumple zone."

    For spelling call Rogets, for mechanicing call me.

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    Archaeoptersix 1990 6x6 dual cab(This things staying)


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    Definately my exhaust. It was making the bad rattle, well at least a very bad rattle if it was coming from the engine. I think the engine was making a slight rattle as well but seems alright now. And my ol pressure seems about right.

    Thanks again
    Reuben - I don't have a life I have a Land Rover

    SIII 'Blue Bertha'

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    hey are you still after a manual

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    yeah I am...I need one for the 186 and I'm after a Haymes or Gregorys for the Landy (I have the one on cd from Dave's shop)
    Reuben - I don't have a life I have a Land Rover

    SIII 'Blue Bertha'

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