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    Series 3 2.25 Petrol Vapour Lock Issues

    Hi all,

    Am spending some time with the SIII in the WA Pilbara region and am experiencing issues with vapour lock in the fuel system. Nice and warm here at the present...

    Generally runs fine until speed is reduced (ie climbing or pulled over). After this engine coughs and splutters and will not hold idle - will eventually stall.

    After time allowing engine to cool and re-priming fuel system all is well again.

    The cooling system is in good order (although cowl is missing) and the engine timing/tuning is right.

    Is anyone aware of remedies for minimising this issue?

    Am running 95 octane fuel at the moment and wonder if lower octane fuel would be less prone to vapour lock.

    Cheers,

    Antrhony

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    What carby do you have? The Webber is notorious.

    Years ago I had some vapour lock issues which turned out to be dodgy valves in the fuel pump. If I put an ice cube on the fuel pump the problem went away!

    I swapped the manual pump for an electric one and all was cured.

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    Thanks for that

    Am running a the Zenith 36IV. Carb has recently had a rebuild and have only just put a new fuel pump on the engine.

    The fuel line has been re-routed away from the engine block also.

    Not sure if it is vapourising at the fuel pump or further toward the carby.

    Might try lower octane fuel and possibly insulating the fuel lines.

    If all else fails will look into electric pump.

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    I'd be more worried about the tropical low that is brewing north of Brome and heading your way. Potential cyclone there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pegasus View Post
    Thanks for that

    Am running a the Zenith 36IV. Carb has recently had a rebuild and have only just put a new fuel pump on the engine.

    The fuel line has been re-routed away from the engine block also.

    Not sure if it is vapourising at the fuel pump or further toward the carby.

    Might try lower octane fuel and possibly insulating the fuel lines.

    If all else fails will look into electric pump.
    Carry an esky with some ice, and when it happens again, put a couple of ice cubes on top of the fuel pump and let them melt - see if that fixes it.

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    I added an electric fuel pump to my 2A, back near the tank. It mostly cured the problem. Still get some vaporising issues, but only when hot-starting and it passes relatively quickly.

    I'm a firm believer that the problem is fully to do with the fuel they sell us now. Why else do all new cars have their fuel pumps inside the tank? It makes the old Landies look badly designed, but it worked just fine all those years ago, when they were new and petrol had some substance to it.

    Good luck, and believe me, you're not alone in this. Just be thankful you're not trying to handle the TopEnd heat and humidity as well!

    Dan.
    69 2A 88" pet4 (in diguise), 68 2B FC pet6 (resting quietly), plus others.

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    Problem is almost certainly one of the following:-

    1. Fuel pipe is partly blocked somewhere on the suction side of the fuel pump. Most likely the strainer on the pickup in the tank, but could be anywhere.

    2. Air leak somewhere on the suction side of the fuel pump, most likely the strainer at the pump (if fitted) or a pinhole in the fuel pickup in the tank.

    3. Something trapped under one of the valves in the fuel pump - last time I had this it was a the threadlike bit off a corkscrew grass seed - heaven knows how it got past the tank strainer

    Does the 95 octane contain ethanol? If so, it is likely to vaporise at a lower temperature than ordinary unleaded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dandlandyman View Post
    I added an electric fuel pump to my 2A, back near the tank. It mostly cured the problem. Still get some vaporising issues, but only when hot-starting and it passes relatively quickly.

    This should fix the problem regardless of the cause!

    I'm a firm believer that the problem is fully to do with the fuel they sell us now. Why else do all new cars have their fuel pumps inside the tank? It makes the old Landies look badly designed, but it worked just fine all those years ago, when they were new and petrol had some substance to it.

    They have in-tank fuel pumps because they use fuel injection.

    Good luck, and believe me, you're not alone in this. Just be thankful you're not trying to handle the TopEnd heat and humidity as well!

    Dan.
    69 2A 88" pet4 (in diguise), 68 2B FC pet6 (resting quietly), plus others.

    In over forty-five years using Series Landrovers with this engine (including years in the Simpson Desert), and with 42C forecast here tomorrow, I have never had vapor lock problems except when an actual fault (such as suggested above) has later been found.

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    an stop gap fix is to place a faced 7psi fuel pump as close to the fuel tank pick up as possable.
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    Len Beadell often refers to fuel vapour locks in his series of books. His remedy was to "spit" a stream of water from his mouth at a specific section of the fuel line that always got too hot and vapourised the fuel. It was a regular occurence for him when travelling in the outback heat doing his reconosence (sp?) runs for the road routes over the dunes and slow going in the bush. I don't know whether he ever considered it a "problem", just one of the characteristic aspects of remote bush travel in an old Land Rover, with a simple fix.

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